Any comments on the Glock 23?

[.cheese.]

I love the 23. I have 2. I also have some 27's and 22's, and while I carry the 27 most often, if I weighed a little less, I'd carry the 23.

It's an excellent size. The 22 comes off as a little too long for me, I don't know why. The 23 is really the optimal size IMO for an EDC .40 cal.

 

[denfoote]

I like mine.
It's a 2nd generation.
Same size as my former G19, but with more oomph!!

 

[Koblenz]

maybe you should look into picking up a Walther P22

Maybe you can give that same advice to the FBI. They adopted the G23 and then had Federal make a reduced power .40 load for them because the agents were complaining about the recoil.

Recoil isn't bad in my G23 as long as I stick with the 180 grain loads. But with the hot 155 grain loads that have the best stopping power, the gun becomes difficult to control.

 

[Don Lu]

the G19/23 is the perfect size for me as far as CCW. The ammo cost is just a little more for the 23, but it probably wont keep you from going to the range just as often, hasnt stopped me anyway. I'll eventually get a 19 but I am very pleased w/my 23. They arent too bad on recoil either. I may be a little more "immune" to recoil b/c the G23 was my first gun so I learned to handle recoil right away (YMMV). go for the 23, bigger bullet, high capacity, same package.

 

[jferrell54]

I'd probably use the 180 grain instead of the hot 155. I like the idea of shooting what I can control and get hits with. But that's just me.

 

[kashton]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=287767&highlight=mmm

 

[Koblenz]

I'd probably use the 180 grain instead of the hot 155.

That does solve the controlability problem. But the 180 grain loads don't have the stopping power of the hot 155 grain loads.

If one is buying a G23, I think the best idea is to get the compensated version. Then you get a controlable pistol that can handle the more effective .40 loads.

In my case I live about a 45 minute drive from the Glock factory in Smyrna, Georgia. I plan to swing by and ask if they can convert my G23 to the compensated version.

 

[Eyesac]

Love it.

 

[longeyes]

A compensated barrel is problematic for CCW use. And it reduces muzzle velocity, no?

 

[Koblenz]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...&highlight=mmm

There is some very high praise of the Glock 23 in that thread, versus a compact Govt. Model .45. However, one of the commentators points out that he uses 180 grain ammunition in the G23. There are .40 loads with lighter bullets that have more stopping power than the 180 grain loads.

I still say the G23 should be purchased in the compensated version. Only the G23C will allow you to take full advantage of the superior stopping power of the S&W .40.

 

[DHart]

Glock 23 with 180 gr. Gold Dots or Rangers is a superb defense system... high capacity, great reliability, compact package, and the 180 gr. Gold Dot is a very effective stopper indeed (see http://www.firearmstactical.com/tactical.htm and http://www.tacticalforums.com)... there is no realistic *need* to choose the lighter weight loadings which are harder to shoot well with and slow follow up shot times - much better to shoot a round which you can control more easily, fire repeatedly more quickly, and land your rounds just a little more accurately - at SPEED, than to try to gain a relatively inconsequential boost in velocity/energy.

I believe that the Glock 19 and 23 are the two best Glock models for defense - period. I've got them both and they're great pistols. My 23 has a 16-round capacity when at home and a 14-round capacity when I concealed carry it... with a 15-round mag as a spare. 29 rounds of 180 gr. Gold Dots on hand with one reload... a great little set-up that's easy to shoot well.

 

[Koblenz]

DHart,

I was basing my statements on stopping power on Evan Marshall's statistics. I know there are folks who disagree strongly with Marshall, and have read some objections to Marshall's statistics on the firearmstactical website. But I have also read a good bit on Marshall's own www.stoppingpower.net website, and he seems reasonable and honest.

I have not visited the tactical forums website you mentioned. I will definitely check it out. Thanks for the advice.

 

[DHart]

Koblenz.... rather than chase after velocity or energy, these days ammo makers are designing bullets to perform fairly comparably across weights and calibers... for example... the top defense loads in 9, 40, and 45 all give fairly similar expansion characteristics and penetration... close enough to not be overly concerned that any one is significantly "better" than another... if well placed, repeatedly, RAPIDLY... the top defense loads in 9, 40, and 45 will all give roughly comparable results. I feel it's best to choose loads which one can hit accurately with, repeatedly, and at a high rate of follow-up speed rather than seeking out "the one" which has the highest velocity or the most energy. In .40 caliber, the 180 gr. is relatively easier to shoot with rapdi follow-up shots, easy to control, and it's quite effective when placed where they need to go, therefore, I prefer that bullet weight in .40 caliber. Again, bullet placement, repeatedly, and very rapidly stops fights quickly... given 9mm +P, .40 cal. or .45 acp, the particular caliber or bullet weight is of relatively little concern.