Nushif
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Your argument has true depth and internal consistency. A credit to the Union, no doubt.
any people of color?
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Ragnar Danneskjold
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I don't agree. Skin color cannot be changed and has no bearing on one's personality, and thus it's poor thing to use when evaluating a person.
Their manner of dress CAN be changed, and on purpose. The manner one chooses to present themselves to the world is a extremely accurate representation of their personality. When you put clothes on, or modify your outward appearance, you are doing so with full knowledge and intent on what image you want to convey. All dress is deliberate. And if you are deliberately presenting yourself as a criminal or troublemaker, I will look at you as such.
Of course we all have the freedom of expression. But others have the freedom to evaluate our expression based on their own perceptions. Just as writing a newspaper opinion piece and standing in a family restaurant screaming obscenities are both forms of expression, though the effect each will have on the listener varies greatly; dressing with a polo shirt and khakis vs sagging jeans, a wife-beater shirt and gold chains are also both forms of expression....and also with varying effects on the viewer.
You present yourself however you wish. I will evaluate you however I wish based on your conscious choices.
I absolutely have the right to judge anyone based on their conscious and willful actions. Skin color is not an action. Dress and appearance is.
Sam1911
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Our freedoms are primarily freedoms from oppression by our government. Nowhere do our founding documents guarantee us freedom from the repercussions of our actions or choices. Human beings do decorate themselves purposefully. Sometimes to come closer to an ideal or norm. Sometimes to move farther from those ideals or norms.
As it is difficult for us to see ourselves, most of the time, we do this almost 100% for the reaction it will garner from others, or the reaction we think, hope, or believe it will garner from others.
We dress in an expensive suit and get a nice haircut because it will make our employers and Clients look more favorably on us and helps us advance our relative position in the world. Or because we believe it will assist us in realizing our procreative goals/urges.
Punk rockers, gangstas, bikers, etc, dress in socially unconventional ways to set themselves apart from "straight" society, give themselves a more intimidating/aggressive mien, and to self-identify with their sub-culture. (Individualistic conformists.
... Or to emulate those in that society they think they want to be like.
Religious adherents nearly universally adopt some external appearance modifications or decorations which set them apart as a devotee. Hair, jewelry, clothing, beards, makeup and tattoos, hats, accouterments, ... heck, even ritualized genital mutilation.
There is a significant dichotomy here in the US in which we claim as a goal being blind to all of that, while ignoring the fact that these things were devised and enacted purposefully to divide people into recognizable separate categories.
We are supposed to have freedom from THE GOVERNMENT treating us differently based on those factors. Certain classes of distinction even now enjoy protection from differential treatment by most private enterprise as well.
But there is no basic guarantee that your fellow American will ignore, not notice, and/or not react (based on his own notions and biases) negatively toward the choices you've made so carefully in how you present yourself to his eyes.
Now, HOW we may choose to react to those cues has much to do with our own ignorance or understanding, fears and security.
Someone who reacts negatively to a bearded man in a turban because he's afraid of violent islamists (when the man is obviously a Sikh) is acting out of ignorance, probably on several levels.
Someone who refuses to cross the street to avoid, or prepare his defense plan to confront, two young black men in gang colors and covered faces who just stepped out of an alley in front of him is also acting ignorantly.
It is a many-faceted issue.
As it is difficult for us to see ourselves, most of the time, we do this almost 100% for the reaction it will garner from others, or the reaction we think, hope, or believe it will garner from others.
We dress in an expensive suit and get a nice haircut because it will make our employers and Clients look more favorably on us and helps us advance our relative position in the world. Or because we believe it will assist us in realizing our procreative goals/urges.
Punk rockers, gangstas, bikers, etc, dress in socially unconventional ways to set themselves apart from "straight" society, give themselves a more intimidating/aggressive mien, and to self-identify with their sub-culture. (Individualistic conformists.
... Or to emulate those in that society they think they want to be like.Religious adherents nearly universally adopt some external appearance modifications or decorations which set them apart as a devotee. Hair, jewelry, clothing, beards, makeup and tattoos, hats, accouterments, ... heck, even ritualized genital mutilation.
There is a significant dichotomy here in the US in which we claim as a goal being blind to all of that, while ignoring the fact that these things were devised and enacted purposefully to divide people into recognizable separate categories.
We are supposed to have freedom from THE GOVERNMENT treating us differently based on those factors. Certain classes of distinction even now enjoy protection from differential treatment by most private enterprise as well.
But there is no basic guarantee that your fellow American will ignore, not notice, and/or not react (based on his own notions and biases) negatively toward the choices you've made so carefully in how you present yourself to his eyes.
Now, HOW we may choose to react to those cues has much to do with our own ignorance or understanding, fears and security.
Someone who reacts negatively to a bearded man in a turban because he's afraid of violent islamists (when the man is obviously a Sikh) is acting out of ignorance, probably on several levels.
Someone who refuses to cross the street to avoid, or prepare his defense plan to confront, two young black men in gang colors and covered faces who just stepped out of an alley in front of him is also acting ignorantly.
It is a many-faceted issue.
scaatylobo
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Judge not LEST ye be judged
To the OP.
In case you have never looked up the origin of "Redneck",then please do so.
It was a name given to those coal miners in W.V. that were trying to start a union.
They wore red kerchiefs around their necks.
That being the case,did those "Rednecks" on the beach look like West Virginia coal miners ?.
Your judgement of others speaks loudly of possible judgemental issues of your own.
And going 'undercover' as a Jew is about as silly as a Sikh dressing in another manner to blend.
But yes to the poster that said that if you try to blend,you get less hassle no matter where you are or what country/city you are in.
To the OP.
In case you have never looked up the origin of "Redneck",then please do so.
It was a name given to those coal miners in W.V. that were trying to start a union.
They wore red kerchiefs around their necks.
That being the case,did those "Rednecks" on the beach look like West Virginia coal miners ?.
Your judgement of others speaks loudly of possible judgemental issues of your own.
And going 'undercover' as a Jew is about as silly as a Sikh dressing in another manner to blend.
But yes to the poster that said that if you try to blend,you get less hassle no matter where you are or what country/city you are in.
X-Rap
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I think Sam put it very well and I will add that I believe we are all children of ____ no matter what our color is. What makes us different is what goes on inside our heads and that determines how we conduct ourselves and how we project onto the world. Color we are born with everything else is a choice be it religion, profession, dress, hair, piercings/tattoos, sexual behavior and these things like it or not will be judged by others.
Here we are allowed much more freedom of expression than other places that might outright kill you for your behavior or beliefs and have it be sanctioned by the government.
America is still and has always been the place people break into not out of, there are few places in the world that can claim that.
The right of us to be of any race should be guaranteed by the highest power, adding all the rest has only cheapened it.
Here we are allowed much more freedom of expression than other places that might outright kill you for your behavior or beliefs and have it be sanctioned by the government.
America is still and has always been the place people break into not out of, there are few places in the world that can claim that.
The right of us to be of any race should be guaranteed by the highest power, adding all the rest has only cheapened it.
geekWithA.45
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Given that the flags and national clues on the olympic uniforms this year are very subtle, one of the things I absolutely LOVE about America is that you could legitimately wonder if an athlete of any ethnicity or skin tone is an American.
And as for color, I'm dark beige, and I ain't gonna help you if you're trying to figure out whether that provides a basis to act differently towards me than any other person.
And as for color, I'm dark beige, and I ain't gonna help you if you're trying to figure out whether that provides a basis to act differently towards me than any other person.
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There is one point that I think is not that obvious:
I think that is not necessarily true. It may be true in many cases but also not true in many cases. The person may not know what he or she is conveying, or have a different idea what such communication is. In a way, you can say there is the chance of misunderstanding just like spoken language.
I don't have tattoos and don't have any problem with anyone with them. Some of the tattoos I see I find quite beautiful on the person and some I find rather distasteful. But that is art. Some people might like my music, or taste in artists, or food, or not, etc.
A person dressing casually may try to communicate that he or she is not up tight, etc. while someone else is wondering, why is he not wearing a shirt and tie and being so sloppy? Etc.
I'm just saying it's not necessarily true that non-verbal communication is actually what the "recipient" thinks it is, even among people of the same cultural environment. Even here we see varying opinion among AMERICANS not to mention the cultural (again, social HABITS) rift among people of wider backgrounds.
I think that is not necessarily true. It may be true in many cases but also not true in many cases. The person may not know what he or she is conveying, or have a different idea what such communication is. In a way, you can say there is the chance of misunderstanding just like spoken language.
I don't have tattoos and don't have any problem with anyone with them. Some of the tattoos I see I find quite beautiful on the person and some I find rather distasteful. But that is art. Some people might like my music, or taste in artists, or food, or not, etc.
A person dressing casually may try to communicate that he or she is not up tight, etc. while someone else is wondering, why is he not wearing a shirt and tie and being so sloppy? Etc.
I'm just saying it's not necessarily true that non-verbal communication is actually what the "recipient" thinks it is, even among people of the same cultural environment. Even here we see varying opinion among AMERICANS not to mention the cultural (again, social HABITS) rift among people of wider backgrounds.
Nushif
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Exactly.
Spot on.
Entirely different ideas of what is respectful communication.
"Welcome to Burker King Sir or Ma'am, home of the latest whiopper thingie. How can I help you Sir or Ma'am"
To me it's a waste of my time, insincere phony, lowbrow, an insult to the intelligence of anyone with more than two brain cells and the tone is borderline disrespectful in its apathy, usually.
To others it's professional, crisp and respectful.
Deanimator
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Many years ago, my father taught me that I don't need to be "socially accepted" by imbeciles.
Sikhs are not a "criminal" class. They belong to a particular religion, which in this country anyway, bothers virtually nobody. If somebody doesn't like that they wear turbans, that's their problem. If they act out about it in unlawful ways, they're subject to have a BIG problem.
That's the nice thing about most of the United States as opposed to places like India and the UK. If somebody unlawfully threatens you with violence for wearing a turban (or a yarmulka, or a dress for that matter) you have not just the right to defend yourself, but the ABILITY, and with deadly force if necessary.
If you don't like what I wear, look in a different direction. If you think you're going to "bully" me, never mind attack me physically, you're headed for a life changing (if not life ending) event.
ljnowell
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I think maybe you are showing your own prejudices there. My family is all from Alabama. I happen to live in IL now, but thats where we are from. We DO NOT fly the confederate flag out of hate, or racism, but out of pride. My family lost many people fighting for that flag, that doesnt make us racist, sorry.
Im not trying to be a jerk either, and I am not calling you racist, I am just saying that we all have those fears based on anothers nationality or race, and that one was yours.
Deanimator
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If you'd grown up in Chicago in the '60s and '70s you'd be surprised at just how NON-racial Cleveland is, as I was when I moved here in '86.
As I do in pretty much everywhere I move, I visited just about every bookstore in Cleveland, the first weekend I was here. Driving around, I was astonished to NOT be able to tell the predominant race of many of the neighborhoods through which I passed. You will NEVER have that "problem" in Chicago.
Are there racists here, Black AND White? Yep, are they the driving force here? Not by a long shot. Regardless of what you think of Mayor Frank Jackson (especially his asinine attempts to push gun control), to the best of my knowledge, he's never had an aid selling audiotapes asserting that "Jewish doctors intentionally inject Black children with AIDS". Chicago can't make the same claim about past mayors.
mortablunt
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@Somoss: :banghead:
That's just plain disturbing. That hits fairly close to home; my brother's friends are Palestinian immigrants who regularly go shooting. It also reminds me way too much of what overly-PC scholastic folks are like.
I find it appalling the level to which claimants of the second amendment are willing to eschew the first.
I notice that being a rather nerdy, short, young white male, that there is a sort of dismissive attitude towards me. It gets very annoying when you're 19, a full-time student, and employed, yet people still assume that you're a 14 year old mall ninja with a Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 fixation. More traditional hunting groups and gun societies frequently have this elitist attitude about them and seem to have an aversion to young outsiders trying to get in. It's no wonder that so many young shooters are flocking to the tactical community; it's because that's the one place where a teenage or young adult shooter can find their peers and go about with the hobby without being mocked or patronized or ostracized.
I detest the labeling of people as <Insert Thing Here> Americans. America is the land which ought to be without divisions between races and creeds. Let's actually try that for a moment. That makes me a White-Male-Czech-English-Christian-American. The fastest way to break a solid group is to point out a point of difference. Chinese, Amenian, Nigerian, Honduran, Jewish, Sikh, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, African, Arab, White, it ought not to matter. We are Americans. That should come above all else. I'm proud that my fellow members here understand that.
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TaylorBrassjole73
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I have heard before that ''birds of a feather flock together'', and I beleive that in general that is true. For the most part color x likes to hang around other x's and color y's tend to hang around other y's. But that does not give color z any right to suppress the rights of any one else. This is America, as long as your beliefs don't violate my rights you can do whatever you want and I will return that respect by not violating yours. It is human nature to be around peope like you (of course that doesn't mean you dont have friends of different races, I just mean in general). We all bleed the same color. I treat everyone the same as long as the courtesy is extended to me, and will go out of my way to help anyone experiencing rascism regardless of color bcause i have seen it come from every direction. Just my 2 pennies.
RogueLeader
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The biggest problem with most Americans is we can't let go of our enemies when we go to war against them. We still have a problem as a nation with Native Americans, and Hispanics after our wars with them, and we still have some animosity toward certain Asians. We don't seem to dislike Germans in the same way because (as far as my point of view) we fought them in Europe. We have a major problem now with Middle Easterners because we have been fighting a prolonged war there, which of course was precipitated by 9-11.
My mother was Japanese and came here shortly after WWII and even though I was born here, I might as well have fought the war for the Japanese by my self. We seem to have to remind ourselves of the major events that led us into the war, especially when we are attacked, re; December 7th, and 9-11. I'm not saying we shouldn't remember, but these particular dates seem to cause us to dig up a lot of animosity. There are still many who still give me a hard time when they find out I'm half Japanese. If anyone has doubts about how this country feels about Asians, just visit some of the American car forums and read the comments when someone discusses Asian vehicles.
I wish a lot more of my fellow Americans had the same views as expressed by the many members who responded to this thread, but the racism is there and it does show its face quite frequently.
My mother was Japanese and came here shortly after WWII and even though I was born here, I might as well have fought the war for the Japanese by my self. We seem to have to remind ourselves of the major events that led us into the war, especially when we are attacked, re; December 7th, and 9-11. I'm not saying we shouldn't remember, but these particular dates seem to cause us to dig up a lot of animosity. There are still many who still give me a hard time when they find out I'm half Japanese. If anyone has doubts about how this country feels about Asians, just visit some of the American car forums and read the comments when someone discusses Asian vehicles.
I wish a lot more of my fellow Americans had the same views as expressed by the many members who responded to this thread, but the racism is there and it does show its face quite frequently.
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Sam1911
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I guess that could be, but at this point in history I think almost every race or nation has gone to war with almost every other somewhere along the line.
Allies become enemies in a generation, and enemies become allies. How many Americans really bear much animosity for the Japanese, now? We generally get along great, but it would be hard to imagine a more hateful, bitter relationship than existed in the 1940s.
I don't think the average American even knows we ever went to war with Mexico!
Regarding the insults from Nushif and his "wife"
Wow! I just came back and saw where the Nushif's want to get personal and sling some mud on the HighRoad.
He and his wife keep confusing "rights" and "acceptance" in this discussion, alternating between the two concepts as if they were one. I can address that. Rights have to do with the law. Acceptance or "fitting in" has to do with personal feelings.
Our laws demand that all people regardless of color, tattoo, piercings, or dress have the same rights. No one here has contested that. If your rights have been infringed upon, don't whine about it - take it to court. The law treats everyone the same. You don't have to do anything to earn your rights. They are already given.
But, your complaint is not really about the law, is it? No, the original post was talking about feeling alone and not "fitting in". That is a completely different matter. Others here posted sympathetic responses trying to offer helpful suggestions for how the OP might be able to accomplish that. THEN, I see this defiant rant from your wife insulting me and my beliefs for no reason... calling me a "conformist" and putting words in my mouth that I did not say. How dare you address me as if you know anything about me! If the Moderator allowed that, then I am owed equal opportunity to respond.
Your entire rant is based upon the argument that you should not have to "fit in". Your tone is a challenge of defiance towards the very group you are trying to gain acceptance from. How dare you try to force the rest of us to change to be like you so that you won't have to be like us.
Make up your mind! Are you trying to fit in, or are you trying to make people feel a certain way about you without you having to change anything about your self? You have no right to a "feeling of acceptance" from others. Unlike rights, you have to EARN respect! you have to EARN trust, and you have to EARN acceptance. If you want to live as a "non-conformist" in isolation, that is your right. Go away and enjoy it. But do not come on here with your arrogant posts insulting people you don't even know.
Wow! I just came back and saw where the Nushif's want to get personal and sling some mud on the HighRoad.
He and his wife keep confusing "rights" and "acceptance" in this discussion, alternating between the two concepts as if they were one. I can address that. Rights have to do with the law. Acceptance or "fitting in" has to do with personal feelings.
Our laws demand that all people regardless of color, tattoo, piercings, or dress have the same rights. No one here has contested that. If your rights have been infringed upon, don't whine about it - take it to court. The law treats everyone the same. You don't have to do anything to earn your rights. They are already given.
But, your complaint is not really about the law, is it? No, the original post was talking about feeling alone and not "fitting in". That is a completely different matter. Others here posted sympathetic responses trying to offer helpful suggestions for how the OP might be able to accomplish that. THEN, I see this defiant rant from your wife insulting me and my beliefs for no reason... calling me a "conformist" and putting words in my mouth that I did not say. How dare you address me as if you know anything about me! If the Moderator allowed that, then I am owed equal opportunity to respond.
Your entire rant is based upon the argument that you should not have to "fit in". Your tone is a challenge of defiance towards the very group you are trying to gain acceptance from. How dare you try to force the rest of us to change to be like you so that you won't have to be like us.
Make up your mind! Are you trying to fit in, or are you trying to make people feel a certain way about you without you having to change anything about your self? You have no right to a "feeling of acceptance" from others. Unlike rights, you have to EARN respect! you have to EARN trust, and you have to EARN acceptance. If you want to live as a "non-conformist" in isolation, that is your right. Go away and enjoy it. But do not come on here with your arrogant posts insulting people you don't even know.
X-Rap
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As I read this I reflect on yesterdays trip to town. I must agree with the difference in race and appearance. Of the thousands of faces I saw I can't think of one that was "of color" that caused me to shake my head based on their race. I did see may people who were saying look at me I am different because they had strangely colored hair, odd piercings, in your face dress, or to much die in their skin. It's my perspective but that is my right as well.
Some of those traits are IMO tells on if I should be taking extra precautions defensively and race is just matter of how some criminals wish to group themselves.
Some of those traits are IMO tells on if I should be taking extra precautions defensively and race is just matter of how some criminals wish to group themselves.
Kynoch
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No way.
"Redneck" = sunburned neck, common (at one time at least) of outdoor manual laborers.
larryh1108
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Very well worded.
We all do have rights that are given by law. However, if you choose to have 50 tattoos, body piercings on every appendage and/or you wear gang colors and dress you can expect everyone to accept you as you are but like others have said, you choose what you put on or wear to project an image. You do not choose the color of your skin. We can choose to accept your decisions or to not accept your choices.
If 2 people of equal ability apply for a job and one is in a suit and tie and the other has a t-shirt, tattoos and body piercings and the guy in the suit gets the job were your rights violated or did you project the wrong image to the person who hires you? If you are so firm in your beliefs of take you as you are, why do you go to court or job interviews with the tats covered up and in a suit? Aren't you contradicting yourself and ideals? If you are discriminated against because the color of your skin, that is wrong. If you are discriminated against because of the way you dress and apprear in public then look in the mirror. It is not the world, it is your choices. You can project yourself as whatever you wish to be. Just realize that we also have choices and we don't have to see it your way. That is our right.
22-rimfire
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I try to be color blind as far as day to day life goes. But I am definitely not STUPID blind. I just can't tolerate stupid regardless of skin color.
I can honestly say that a good looking person of color will turn my head just as quickly as a good looking white woman. Yes, I'm a white man.
In the last two weeks, I have done business with a number of Indians and I can honestly say that I am not in the least judgemental based on skin color.
I can honestly say that a good looking person of color will turn my head just as quickly as a good looking white woman. Yes, I'm a white man.
In the last two weeks, I have done business with a number of Indians and I can honestly say that I am not in the least judgemental based on skin color.
Yes, I have witnessed this STUPID behavior @ ranges, gun shops & gun shows & practice the following--better result if done by a witness of different culture & gender:
notify the range officer of what I witnessed which I perceived to be inappropriate
(if the range officer was the perp then write a e mail or letter to the range)
Ask to speak to the manager/owner of gun store & inform him/her that I will not
be spending my money here if ALL customers are not treated equally & with respect
Notify G show promoter or representative & of behavior by vendor
notify the range officer of what I witnessed which I perceived to be inappropriate
(if the range officer was the perp then write a e mail or letter to the range)
Ask to speak to the manager/owner of gun store & inform him/her that I will not
be spending my money here if ALL customers are not treated equally & with respect
Notify G show promoter or representative & of behavior by vendor
grampster
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Been skimming through this thread. Interesting for the philosophical wisdom that has been passed around. But sometimes there is a world of difference between reality and philosophy.
I'm an old guy of 69 years. I've been around the block a bit. I had a father who taught me to pay attention to stuff a little further out than just my own self. I played youth baseball on a traveling team in the 50's where another guy and I were the only white boys. Now that was very odd for the times but we had a great time and a great team. I was in LE for a few years and that learning experience was enlightening with respect to being in contact with different cultures, creeds, colors etc. under a variety of circumstances. Then I was in business for many years and I would not have been as successful as I was if I treated folks differently based on markers that are obvious with respect to the differences in people. In other words, my attitude made the sale and in my business I sold a promise not a tangible product. How I acted drove whether I got a chance to make the sale.
This is what I learned and what I know to be true. Your attitude and how you carry yourself when you come into contact with folks other than those who are your friends, family and acquaintances is actually the major thing that will determine your treatment by those strangers. If you have a smile on your face, are cheerful and not afraid to introduce yourself in a way that causes others to let down the natural guard virtually everyone has regarding a stranger, no matter what he/she looks like, will usually guarantee that you will be treated as you are treating others. Do as you would be done by as C.S. Lewis once paraphrased. I have found that acceptance by others is usually based upon your demeanor; the way you act not the way you look. Not a universal truth, by any means, but one that you can hang your hat on most of the time.
I'm an old guy of 69 years. I've been around the block a bit. I had a father who taught me to pay attention to stuff a little further out than just my own self. I played youth baseball on a traveling team in the 50's where another guy and I were the only white boys. Now that was very odd for the times but we had a great time and a great team.
I was in LE for a few years and that learning experience was enlightening with respect to being in contact with different cultures, creeds, colors etc. under a variety of circumstances. Then I was in business for many years and I would not have been as successful as I was if I treated folks differently based on markers that are obvious with respect to the differences in people. In other words, my attitude made the sale and in my business I sold a promise not a tangible product. How I acted drove whether I got a chance to make the sale.This is what I learned and what I know to be true. Your attitude and how you carry yourself when you come into contact with folks other than those who are your friends, family and acquaintances is actually the major thing that will determine your treatment by those strangers. If you have a smile on your face, are cheerful and not afraid to introduce yourself in a way that causes others to let down the natural guard virtually everyone has regarding a stranger, no matter what he/she looks like, will usually guarantee that you will be treated as you are treating others. Do as you would be done by as C.S. Lewis once paraphrased. I have found that acceptance by others is usually based upon your demeanor; the way you act not the way you look. Not a universal truth, by any means, but one that you can hang your hat on most of the time.
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There have been numerous factors lumped into this discussion. While it may be possible to dissect and analyze each separately, it is very difficult to intermix (ha, pun intended I guess) all these factors and that is partly creating some unfortunate friction. Skin color, place where you were born, place where you grew up, things you put on your skin, the way you walk, the way you talk, the friends you hang out with, the way you look at someone, the way you approach or don't approach someone, etc. all these are actually totally separate factors. The trouble is, they are often assumed to be genetically/culturally/logically related to the other factors, and actually that is the start of prejudice (pre-judge).
Just to be clear, I do not mean that you throw your entire brain out the window. If you sense danger, react accordingly.
I also have to say something that has been pointed out by a few posters, that some people may disagree with or even find mildly offensive, but it is true nonetheless and I know it myself, and that is the more experience you have with people of different backgrounds, personalities, etc. the less "scared" you might be or less "angry" you might be, with "them" because you discover all the nuances within "those people" to make you realize that even though they may appear to be a bunch of XYZ on the surface, in fact they are very much more individualized (to the extent, of course, that they ARE individuals as much as you are, within your own "peoples").
I have no farming/rearing experience but a herder (his family owns a ranch and supposedly won many "best cattle" or some such awards) once told me that all cows are individuals and have their own personalities. In fact someone who is a fish expert (sells expensive aquariums) told me the same thing, that all fish have their own personalities.
I know DOGS and CATS actually do, and have direct experience with that, having taken care of so many of them over the years. So when you think of humans with immensely more complex and sophisticated capacity, it's obvious that everything is much more than skin deep.
Just to be clear, I do not mean that you throw your entire brain out the window. If you sense danger, react accordingly.
I also have to say something that has been pointed out by a few posters, that some people may disagree with or even find mildly offensive, but it is true nonetheless and I know it myself, and that is the more experience you have with people of different backgrounds, personalities, etc. the less "scared" you might be or less "angry" you might be, with "them" because you discover all the nuances within "those people" to make you realize that even though they may appear to be a bunch of XYZ on the surface, in fact they are very much more individualized (to the extent, of course, that they ARE individuals as much as you are, within your own "peoples").
I have no farming/rearing experience but a herder (his family owns a ranch and supposedly won many "best cattle" or some such awards) once told me that all cows are individuals and have their own personalities. In fact someone who is a fish expert (sells expensive aquariums) told me the same thing, that all fish have their own personalities.
I know DOGS and CATS actually do, and have direct experience with that, having taken care of so many of them over the years. So when you think of humans with immensely more complex and sophisticated capacity, it's obvious that everything is much more than skin deep.
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