Anybody know of pistol with (close to) THESE specs?

[Hokkmike]

Anybody know of pistol with (close to) THESE specs?

Below are the specs for the Taurus 638. It got many bad reviews and is no longer in production. I wish somebody had a successful pistol with these spec. Anybody know of anything like this??? (Essential qualities that I am looking for are underlined)

Manufacturing
Made By:Taurus (Brazil)
MSRP: $483.00 – $498.00

Caliber:.380 ACP
Capacity:15+1 rounds

Dimensions
Type:Compact
Weight:23.3 oz (660 g)
Length:6.1″ (156 mm)
Height:5.0″ (128 mm)
Width:1.26″ (32 mm)
Barrel Length:3.3″ (83 mm)

Design
Operation:Semi-automatic, Short recoil
Trigger: DA/SA
Frame:Alloy
Slide: Steel, Stainless steel
Finish:Blued, Stainless
Grip:Checkered polymer
Sights:Fixed
Safety:Frame-mounted manual safety
Rifling:Right-hand with 6 grooves
Rifling Twist:1 in 10"

 

[thefish]

Bersa .380 plus gets you close, except for the slide mounted safety.

http://www.bersa.com/bersa-firearms/thunder-plus.html

 

[Walt Sherrill]

The Beretta Cheetah (84 or 85) is roughly similar -- and considered a fine weapon.

The original Beretta versions are pricey, but there may be knockoffs imported, or surplus ones availlable. They're likely to be very reliable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_Cheetah


thefish posted right before I hit "submit". You could do worse than a Bersa, too -- and it's a new guin with a warranty (and Bersas seldom seem to need repairs.)

 

[AustinTX]

I agree that the Beretta 84 is probably closest to what you're looking for. (It's also the finest .380 in existence.) But both the Beretta and Bersa are straight blowback designs instead of locked-breech like the Taurus. Unless I'm overlooking something obvious, I don't know of any other high-capacity locked-breech .380.

 

[C0untZer0]

The Chiappa MC14 is similar, although a little bigger - made by Girsan.

It only says that it uses "short recoil" operation system, I'm guessing it uses Browning tilting barrel. But anyway, the main point is that it isn't straight blowback.

http://www.girsan.com.tr/en/mc-14

Taurus 638------------------------Chiappa MC14
Weight:23.3 oz (660 g)-----------Weight:21.7 oz (615 g) - unloaded
Length:6.1″ (156 mm)------------Length:6.8″ (172.6 mm)
Height:5.0″ (128 mm)------------Height:5.09″ (129.2 mm)
Width:1.26″ (32 mm)-------------Width:1.32″ (33.5 mm)
Barrel Length:3.3″ (83 mm)------Barrel Length:3.8″ (97 mm)
Capacity:15+1 rounds------------Capacity:13+1 rounds



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[AustinTX]

Well, there you go. Hadn't seen that one before.

There's actually quite a bit of the 84 in the MC 14's styling -- and quite a bit that isn't the 84.

 

[C0untZer0]

Girsen makes some direct Beretta knock-offs. And then they have a bunch of 9mm pistols that look like a cross between a 92 and a Model 84, of varying sizes and weights. They have a slightly larger, 15 round capacity 380 called the MC25 but no one is importing it.

Here is their version of the Beretta 92FS (Not available in the U.S.)

 

[AustinTX]

I remember those from a few years ago. Didn't CDNN or someone get a bunch of those and sell them for ~$300 for a little while? I think it was called the Yavuz 16 or something similar.

 

[C0untZer0]

I remember those from a few years ago. Didn't CDNN or someone get a bunch of those and sell them for ~$300 for a little while? I think it was called the Yavuz 16 or something similar.

Yep

The logo on their website says "Yavuz 16 Girsan" and the logo on the hand grips is "YG" which I assume stands for Yavuz-Girsan. but the actual corporation name is "GİRSAN MACHINE and LIGHT WEAPON IND.CO. "

http://www.girsan.com.tr/en/history

 

[C0untZer0]

At one time Girsan chambered the MC14 in .32 ACP, I don't know if that ever made it to our shores but that would have been a fun pistol to have.

 

[browningguy]

My daughter got one of the new EAA Pavona 13 shot .380 sa/da pistols and really likes it. It seems to have all the accuracy Tanfoglio is known for. She's used it in a couple of training classes with no problems at all.

 

[Float Pilot]

The Italian made HSc-80 from the 1980s were about the same size. Plus there are also the Polish 9mm Mak chambered guns with double stack mags.

 

[C0untZer0]

If you want to wait, Bersa is chambering their BPCC 380 ACP. Should be available soon.

http://www.bersa.com/bersa-firearms/bpcc.html

 

[click clack]

Did i miss something that rules the CZ 83 out?? Clearly the winner, no?

 

[C0untZer0]

CZ-83 is a blowback design.