Anyone agree with "1 round at a time" range rules?

[Monkeybear]

Some ranges have a "Load one shot per magazine" or similar rule. Dose anyone agree with this rule? Can you explain the logic behind it to me?

I have heard of others that have a three, six, and a ten round per loaded magazine rule, whats the point of that? Whats the appeal of limiting the amount of rounds someone loads into their magazine while range shooting????


I just dont get it, help me out here. Range owners and range workers please chime in.

 

[Rumble]

The state game lands here have a restriction put in place so that shooters don't have to wait for someone with a large magazine to shoot 30 rounds before they can go check targets, etc (I think the limit is 3 rounds in a rifle, and 6 in a handgun). It's ostensibly a "courtesy" limit. However, that's the only range I've been to that does that. All the others just let you blaze away.

 

[steelhead]

Prevents the yahoo's from blowing of a magazine in .002 seconds.... A few idiots obviously were doing this and now they need to implement rules to prevent it.

My range doesn't have a rule on limiting mag capacity but any "hot dogs" are issued 1 warning and then are banned on the 2nd offence. Saw one guy rip through a mag and walked 3 rounds into the ceiling because he lost control.

Safety and respect for other shooters are the main reasons for the rule.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

My range doesn't have a rule on limiting mag capacity but any "hot dogs" are issued 1 warning and then are banned on the 2nd offence.

I understand the courtesy factor. I'm more in favor of the "no idiots" rules.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Fully automatic fire is okay at the range where I work.

 

[Monkeybear]

The state game lands here have a restriction put in place so that shooters don't have to wait for someone with a large magazine to shoot 30 rounds before they can go check targets, etc

The range I go to just has a cease fire every 20 minutes. I cant see needing a cease fire too much more often than that. Even if you havn't fired all of the rounds in your magazine you can still go check your targets.

Saw one guy rip through a mag and walked 3 rounds into the ceiling because he lost control.

Granted thats pretty stupid, what about people who are not morons? What about people that can fire 17 rounds in a few seconds and get them all on the target?

I find it very easy to be safe and respectful with my 26 round mag inserted into my CZ75BD. I also have never emptied it in less than maybe two or three minutes. I can kinda understand rules against rapid fire, just not rules about how many rounds I can load. I mean at what point is my gun no longer "safe"? Seems its either the second or the seventh round that makes it more dangerous?

 

[1911JMB]

Said 1 round at a time rules made me leave my gun club, and never look back.

 

[jmburton]

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[Euclidean]

I don't get it at all. I can connect strings of shots on the same target quickly shooting more than once per second, and I am not unique at all. Almost anyone can do it with a .22. It's not a safety hazard, so what's the problem?

Honestly when you shoot a gun for real, be it certain competitions or defensively, it is highly possible you aren't going to pause a second between shots.

 

[shield20]

I always thought the restriction was to limit the chance of blowing up the gun on a squib round???

 

[steelhead]

Granted thats pretty stupid, what about people who are not morons? What about people that can fire 17 rounds in a few seconds and get them all on the target?

Controlled rapid fire is fine as are double taps, etc.. Our range looks out for and removes the immature and potentially dangerous. It isn't hard to tell the difference between someone who is legitimately practicing, and in control of their firearm, and the person who comes to horse around and neither respects firearms or others.

Other examples of the immature:

Rapidly firing a pistol in each hand like they were in a John Woo film.

Taking a pen and whipping the trigger to get a burst of fire.


Unfortunately, some ranges don't have the staff available to supervise closely enough or have a large problem with wingnuts. As a result, they have to impose even more drastic measures such as mag limits or allowed rate of fire.

 

[AK103K]

I think a lot of it is fear, ignorance, annoyance, and liability insurance, among some other issues.

Insurance runs the world these days, and they can also dictate what a club can or can not do if they want already and increasingly expensive insurance.

Another issue is the fear of having the range closed down due to complaints from increasingly hostile neighbors, especially in areas being built up.

Then you have the infighting amongst the shooters themselves. Different disciplines of the sport shoot differently and this can often generate problems. There are definitely "clicks" at local clubs and if your not in one of them, especially if your type of shooting isnt theirs, your going to have problems.

I used to belong to a club that started out with the one round rule for rifles and six for pistols. The board of directors was a bunch of narrow minded grumpy old men who thought you should shoot like them and if you didnt like it, go elsewhere. Thats fine, but there really was no "elsewhere" worth going to, so your stuck. Over the years things loosened up as the old boys either died off or were pushed out, and things got a little better, but there were always politics and clicks. We never could shoot rapid fire, or our full autos, or god forbid, draw from a holster, etc. After an unpleasant altercation with one of the range officers over a rapid fire incident, (my one thousand, two thousand count was a little quicker than his ) after about 25 years there, I wished them good luck and moved on. I suffered a little for about a year, but I now belong to a great club, 2 minutes from my new house, that has a great bunch of members, nice facilities with longer and more versatile ranges, and no restrictions on what or how you shoot. I may get out of this life a happy camper yet.

 

[zero_chances]

I would agree with AK103K that some of it is insurance.

There is a local firearm dealer here that wont let me into the store because i am not 18. I beleive it is their insurance that mandates that. That is the only place that i have had that happen.

 

[DMK]

Prevents the yahoo's from blowing of a magazine in .002 seconds.... A few idiots obviously were doing this and now they need to implement rules to prevent it.

Yea, because more rules always prevents stupidity and negligence.

Personally, I feel it's your ammo. If you want to waste it, that's between you and your paycheck. None of my business or anyone else's.

 

[lamazza]

My range in SE Wisconsin has a 1 round rule and its really annoying-I know some shooters there have never put more than 1 round in there AR magazines since they bought it a year ago. I would go to another , but its prett much the only show in town.

 

[steelhead]

DMK,

You should read my 2nd post.

We don't have those rules but when someone acts like a jerk then they are out and they don't get to come back. People can have their freedom (to blow their paycheck) so long as it doesn't intrude upon the safety of others at the range. We will treat you like an adult until you prove otherwise. If people can't live with that, then they should start up their own range but we don't want or need their business.

 

[Juna]

I can't stand that rule! :banghead: I go to primarily indoor ranges, so changing targets is not an issue as no one can walk in the line of fire. Yet, they have one shot per second rules, "no double taps", etc. I always suspected that this was in order to prevent squib rounds from exploding or something, but I think it's a stupid rule.

I can "rapidly" fire shots and keep them all on target. I like to do different types of drills to train for different scenarios, and I'm always in control of my gun. So it pi$$es me off when I'm treated like a kindergartener who's too stupid to know how to operate a firearm.

Yea, because more rules always prevents stupidity and negligence.

Amen.

 

[Trope]

I haven't seen that particular rule, but here's another one that I find to also be kind of silly...

I was at an indoor range, and was shooting at a silhouette target, aiming at the center of the head (and making it, I might add, see attached) at 10 yds. The RO came on the speaker and said, "no head shots past 5 yds."

What's funny is the guy in the lane next to me was lucky to hit the paper, and he had a hostage target racked out to 25 yds. They didn't say anything to him, but then again, he wasn't making any head shots, either (poor, dead hostage).

 

[Soybomb]

here's another one that I find to also be kind of silly...

I was at an indoor range, and was shooting at a silhouette target, aiming at the center of the head (and making it, I might add, see attached) at 10 yds. The RO came on the speaker and said, "no head shots past 5 yds."

I believe this usually relates to the height of their backstop. Past 5 yards a headshot might be too high for it.

 

[crebralfix]

Such rules are for children and people taking their first shots.

Personally, I prefer to be treated like an adult and avoid places that do not treat me like one.

 

[Mousegun]

Anyone agree with "1 round at a time" range rules?

No

 

[Molon Labe]

At my range, we only have 4 rules.






Because that's all you need.

 

[Trope]

I believe this usually relates to the height of their backstop. Past 5 yards a headshot might be too high for it.

That may well be their concern, but I'm thinking the upward angle would be greater at 5yds than at 10yds. Perhaps I should have asked for an explanation.

 

[R.H. Lee]

There is an abundance of control freaks in this world and some of them run ranges.

 

[MJZZZ]

The only rule at our local gun range is no rapid fire, that will get you warned. I like to shoot multiple shots at multiple targets, and can only do that when I go to my own gun range on my farm. I just love to rapid fire at multiple targets. Mike Z