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I know I harp on Dozier knives a lot. for the money, I think they are one of the best things going. And, most of his knives are practical, both in size and style.

I have carried one of these for many years. He makes great belt sheaths that situate the knife for an easy draw. I modified mine with paracord and carry it tucked in my waistband.

http://www.dozierknives.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29

That's is absolutely the biggest fixed blade knife I would consider carrying on a daily basis.

He makes several models that are smaller and even easier to carry concealed.
 
However, let's say I applied this grip style to a larger straight-blade folder (I dunno...let's say a clip point Cold Steel Voyager or a Benchmade Adamas, both with 4.5-ish inches blade) - wouldn't this style result in a loss of a distance advantage that a larger knife like that could afford?

With that said, I'll still gladly run away if I can avoid it!!! [emoji14]

I carry a Karambit as well. Designed for reverse/edge out.

John is correct you lose range. With a longer blade the range loss would be more noticeable.

The loss of range I can deal with, my blade is just under 3".

The way I train a longer blade wouldn't work all that well. Our live hand (empty) is used for blocking and redirecting the opponents limbs into our blade hand's reach.

A much longer blade could endanger my empty hand.
 
How much do you think the suitability of a certain grip is determined by the design of the knife, versus a specific generalized technique

Let's be sure we're talking about the same thing: the hammer grip is a grip with the knife at a right angle to your fist. This grip is only really good for swinging something like a hammer.

Now, if you lay the knife across your palm at about a 45' angle forward, that's a natural grip. Moving your thumb to reinforce behind the blade is saber. I'll show the first two with my fingers open, so anyone unfamiliar can see how the blade orientation changes.

I hope it's clear now that the hammer grip is not a useful grip for most knives or situations. The exception would be something like a HAK or push knives, which are specifically designed to only be held one way.

John
 

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Let's be sure we're talking about the same thing: the hammer grip is a grip with the knife at a right angle to your fist. This grip is only really good for swinging something like a hammer.

Now, if you lay the knife across your palm at about a 45' angle forward, that's a natural grip. Moving your thumb to reinforce behind the blade is saber. I'll show the first two with my fingers open, so anyone unfamiliar can see how the blade orientation changes.

I hope it's clear now that the hammer grip is not a useful grip for most knives or situations. The exception would be something like a HAK or push knives, which are specifically designed to only be held one way.

John

I worded that poorly...sorry! Sometimes I know what I want to say but don't always say it as well as it sounds in my head! I didn't mean the hammer grip in particular, but more in general terms. I don't have any experience using a hammer grip other than using a hammer.

With a standard straight-edged folder I use several styles of grip depending on the utility work I do, all in a forward position, usually where I use my thumb for added control if there is a ramp or spine serrations to get good traction. I never hold it in a reverse position.
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But in the case of my karambit, I carry for and draw to hold it in a particular reverse position, like this:
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My belief is that using this grip may mean a loss in terms of distance and ease of movement, but the knife's design when combined with this grip benefits me with grip retention. Specifically, my pointer finger goes through the ring. If my hand is cut, and momentarily loses grip, I still could maintain control because I have a stronger finger through that ring. My pinky finger would be through the ring with a standard forward grip, which is much, much, much weaker than my pointer finger.

But if I take this reverse grip and apply it to another knife like a standard straight-edged folder (without a looped ring as seen with most karambits), do you think changing to a different grip style would take more advantage of this different knife's characteristics? Or would you say using one base grip has greater advantage?

I've read some accounts that seem to advocate a specific style of knife without a specific single preferred grip, where as others advocate a specific style of grip used with any knife, where as others a specific type of knife with a specific type of grip without deviation. I carry a straight edged EDC folder on me always. I don't always carry a karambit. This thread got me thinking about how I use the two knives in such a radically different way and what would happen if I needed to use one for the other's purpose.
 
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I carry a Karambit as well. Designed for reverse/edge out.

John is correct you lose range. With a longer blade the range loss would be more noticeable.

The loss of range I can deal with, my blade is just under 3".

The way I train a longer blade wouldn't work all that well. Our live hand (empty) is used for blocking and redirecting the opponents limbs into our blade hand's reach.

A much longer blade could endanger my empty hand.

My skill here is pretty limited, so bear with me. IIRC the length of my karambit is only about 2.75 inches, and my trainer is the same knife without a sharpened blade.

I've practiced a limited amount of using my weak hand to try to exploit the momentum of a strike to use the karambit to target exposed joints. I've also spent a little time practicing several techniques from a few Keating and Marcaida videos, so I could hypothetically use a curved blade to catch and block & redirect a limb being used to strike, then try to bury the tip into a joint of the blocked limb to use the knife as a giant hook to gain the control needed to reposition or strike back (I guess the formal term is counterstrike or counterattack?.) I've also spent some time concentrating on not sending my other hand into my own blade since that would leave me like a goat at an ISIS convention. As a folder works better for me than fixed, I try to spend some time on the draw, but think I would get much more out of that if it were being practiced in a high-stress environment. I recently realized that while the limited training I've done has been with my weak hand empty, in the real world I almost always have an impact weapon right in my pocket in the form of a tactical pen. Now I'm trying to evaluate what potential benefit could come of my own significant oversight.

Do you train primarily using a reverse or forward grip? Do you use or practice transitioning? Do you usually carry a fixed blade or folder karambit? Do you train using multiple grips, angles of approach, and methods? Do you concentrate on a specific methodology and try to almost embed it into your brain so that in a SHTF situation of likely mental & physical distress or pain that your responses are almost instinctual? What do you think helps the most in reaching a point of satisfactory competency? In regards to the hand you do NOT hold the karambit with, do you practice simultaneously with other weapons in that hand?
 
Do you train primarily using a reverse or forward grip?

[ REVERSE]

Do you use or practice transitioning?

[NOPE]

Do you usually carry a fixed blade or folder karambit?

[FIXED]

Do you train using multiple grips, angles of approach, and methods?

[No change in grip. Always work to the outside. Go to the inside only if absolutely no other choice ]

Do you concentrate on a specific methodology and try to almost embed it into your brain so that in a SHTF situation of likely mental & physical distress or pain that your responses are almost instinctual?

[Yes.]

What do you think helps the most in reaching a point of satisfactory competency?

[ Never needing to use any of this In real life]

In regards to the hand you do NOT hold the karambit with, do you practice simultaneously with other weapons in that hand?

[Yes and no. Due to a work injury I have limited use of my left index finger. Fine dexterity and grasping some items is a challenge. I can use my light as an impact enhancer. Can manage a can of OC. Am teaching myself to be compentent firing a small frame revolver with my middle finger , ALA Jack Ruby [emoji33] ]





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