Anyone want full-auto?

[Min]

Anyone want full-auto? (Now with vids!)

I'm really thinking about getting a MAC 10/9mm for my first full-auto. Man this will be fun. It's the only full-auto I can really afford right now with prices around $1500.

There's an outfit that sells .22 lr kit for it, which I think is a GREAT idea.


Anyone else want full-auto?

http://www.subcal.com/M10.html

 

[FPrice]

Min...

"Anyone else want full-auto?"

YES!

I have always wanted a Thompson M1A1, just cannot afford one right now.

After the last Westfield Sportsmans Club Machine Gun Shoot, an MP-5 has been second on my list. Nice little gun.

Something else to dream about.

 

[Min]

BTW, this is the only reason I will try to incorporate myself. Local LEO will not sign.

 

[Deepdiver]

Not really......3 shot bursts are useful, but full auto is a waste of ammo in most (but not all) circumstances. It can be a lot of fun though if someone else is buying the ammo.

 

[Min]

Not expensive if you get the .22 lr kit. .22 lr at 1000+ rpm - fun!

 

[4v50 Gary]

You betcha I would, but I live in a communist state that knows me better than to trust me with one. Guess I have to move.

 

[keyhole]

Lotsa fun to shoot, and even better when someone else buys the ammo!

Now .22,,,, that's a good idea

 

[jsalcedo]

I like them and would buy as many as I could afford.

Right now I have to settle for the MP5 and greasegun rentals at my local range.

 

[45R]

Duh!!! Full auto would make me a better marksman

 

[ACP230]

I was shooting a Madsen M50 and a Reising M50 on Monday.
Posted about it on the rifle forum under the title "Monday Range Report."

Full auto is fun. Semi auto often makes more sense and means more hits.

 

[AJ Dual]

BTW, this is the only reason I will try to incorporate myself. Local LEO will not sign.

I thought there was some sort of extra form, or ATF process you could fill out if you were 100% legal to own Class III but CLEO wouldn't sign just for the hell of it, and get approval anyway?

Or am I imagining that?

 

[Mark Tyson]

You mean you can have a full auto firearm if you own a coropration? Where is that in the NFA? Can you have a post-86 gun?

 

[Schuey2002]

Anyone else want full-auto?

YES, I do!!! Open up a Heckler & Koch WEAPONS SYSTEM catalog, flip to any page, point at any picture of a full-auto HK, and you'll get some idea of what I "want"...

 

[John Ross]

"You mean you can have a full auto firearm if you own a coropration? Where is that in the NFA? Can you have a post-86 gun?"

Only if the corporation has SOT status (is a Class 3 dealer or manufacturer) and gets a demo letter.

What min is talking about is the Form 4 LE signoff on transferables where the local chief refuses to sign. The solution is to form a corporation and have the corporation buy the gun. A corporation doesn't have fingerprints and can't be photographed, so the back of the Form 4, including the LE cert, is Not Applicable.

The gun belongs to the corporation. If the corporation is sold, the gun goes to the new owner, along with all the other corporate assets.

The corporate officers can shoot the gun, along with any employees they designate, just as happens in large ammo companies that have MGs to function-test their ammo.

JR

 

[geekWithA.45]

Sure, I'd love one, but not at the current prices.

BTW, a .22lr happyFunAutoPlinker is an excellent idea!

Why? Because ITS FUN, DURNIT! It won't have much defensive or hunting use, but it would be FUN!

 

[Min]

Thanks, John Ross for answering that question for me.

 

[BerettaNut92]

[Nods]

 

[444]

Anyone want full-auto ?

My answer to that is maybe.
If you are giving them away, then yes I will take as many as you will give me.
If the prices came down to 1/4 what they are now, then I might buy some more.
I own a submachine gun now. It doesn't pull my chain. I think I have fired it twice since I bought it and often forget I own it.
What pulls my chain about shooting is hitting something; accuracy. Making a lot of noise and smoke doesn't really appeal to me. Putting a hammer into the "A" zone does appeal to me. Putting hammers into the "A" zone of three targets in five seconds appeals to me, but I can do that with a handgun or carbine.
Prior to buying my sub-gun I had fired a lot of full auto weapons, so maybe I am jaded. When I shot my subgun for the first time I pretty much yawned and said, big deal.
If they were a lot cheaper, there are a lot of full-autos that I think are cool and wouldn't mind owning, but not really because they are full-auto. For example, I would love to own an M16. I like the M16 platform, I own a lot of AR15s, I had an M16 in the Army. So, I would like one, but I doubt I would ever fire it on full-auto.

 

[anapex]

I've personally always have wanted a Thompson and BAR, Nothing like sending a wall of .45 and 30-06 downrange.

 

[BerettaNut92]

Full auto?

Who, me?

 

[Byron Quick]

Not really......3 shot bursts are useful, but full auto is a waste of ammo in most (but not all) circumstances. It can be a lot of fun though if someone else is buying the ammo.

I can fire reliable, consecutive three shot bursts with my Uzi...accurately, too.

Trigger control.

A young friend with better reaction time can reliably shoot double taps with it.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

Min,

There are other people that can sign the CLEO autograph if the local police chief/sheriff refuses. You might want to look into that before going the corporate route.

I thought there was some sort of extra form, or ATF process you could fill out if you were 100% legal to own Class III but CLEO wouldn't sign just for the hell of it, and get approval anyway?

Nope. Unless you get the CLEO autograph, the only way to get an NFA weapon is to incorporate. There are a few ways to pressure the CLEO into signing if he refuses or you can locate someone else that is elligible to sign.

 

[Byron Quick]

ATF accepts the police chief of the town you live in, the sheriff or equivalent of the county you live in or the district attorney of the court district you live in. Any I've missed, people?

 

[Hawkman]

I had an SWD M11/9 a while back. Rate of fire is incredible - impossible for me to empty a whole mag into a target at 25 feet in one burst. Worked on trigger control for awhile and could squeeze off 5 round bursts fairly consistently.

They ain't as much fun as Uzi's but the price sure is right!

 

[Hkmp5sd]

Any I've missed, people?

Head of the state police, local or state DA or prosecutor.

And here's the biggie, "or such other persons whose certificate may in a particular case be acceptable to the Director."

If the local CLEOs won't sign, you can write to the Director of ATF for a list of others he will accept. In the past, this list has included the local US Attorney, local US Marshals, local supervising FBI agents and local federal judges.