Anyone want to share my CMP experience?

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After 115 days the Field Grade Carbine I ordered arrived today. Of course I missed the Fed-Ex driver so I went over to the office to retrieve it. As I went in I saw a "No Weapons" sign on the door. I felt the need to comment and I said out loud "That sign is ironic considering what I am here to pick up."

Well, this one woman in line made a face like she'd just smelled an open sewer and spat out "Please don't pick up your WEAPON (her emphasis) until I'm out the door!" I was tempted to tell her to be careful because the gun may follow her home but realized there was no point. She was a typical Liberal puke who thinks Obama is doing a great job.

So I get the box home and I took photos of the opening process. Here's the carton as it arrived.

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Fascinating so far, isn't it? I opened the box and found the packing list and foam padding.

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You still with me? It gets better, I promise. I lifted the top sheet of padding and voila, an Inland M1 Carbine serial 3077883 with a barrel date of 12/43.

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A quick inspection showed the wood to be free of any serious damage. Just a few minor dings but at least it's dry and not oil-soaked. The top hand guard is a bit loose, sliding back and forth about 1/8" which is a tad annoying. The metal is free of rust or pitting but the bluing has seen better days. But then, we are talking 66 years of service, here. There is a number 12 stenciled in white paint on the bottom of the pistol grip and I think the rifles returned from Korea have these markings, no? The action seems to work OK from I can see so far.

Out of the box it looked like this.

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Overall I am pleased. Needs a bit of cleaning but I think it's definitely serviceable and is in better shape than the import marked 1944 Inland I picked up on Gunbroker last month for $24 more than I paid for this one. Now I have two.

Here's how it looks with a new 30 round magazine in place (none included with the rifle). The shiny new magazine really makes the old girl show her age.

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Thanks for the Photos.....I hear CMP is out of ammo for them....hope you got
some so you fire it soon!!!!!!!
 
Cool. I was wondering what those looked like out of the box. Not to hijack the thread, but any plan/idea on the best way to clean or condition the stock?
 
I for one was surprised...I expected to see big papa...and upon skipping to the good stuff (picture's worth a thousand words ya' know) found junior. I need to pick up one of those myself...really fun gun...enjoy her. :)
 
Cool. I was wondering what those looked like out of the box. Not to hijack the thread, but any plan/idea on the best way to clean or condition the stock?

tung oil or linseed oil, rubbed into the stock with a clean rag or some cheesecloth

stay away from water, mineral spirits or petroleum products, stains, and anything abrasive
 
also if you are ever within a days drive or either the north store or the south store it really is an awesome experience to go pick one off the rack out of a 100 of them
 
Was there mention of where it's been in the website when you ordered it? They often say from where they've been returned, if they have been returned from overseas.

Painted rack numbers are pretty common and I think they're more a result of the particular practices of whatever unit armory kept track of them, whether a US unit or a foriegn country's unit to which the weapon was assigned. I don't think they necessarily mean that the rifle was returned from Korea or any other country. Just be thankful that whoever had it did not indulge the practice of stamping or burning such designators into the wood. I remove those markings if I get one (or more than one) as detracting but that's all up to you. Some people like the sense of history they may impart.

I'd start with a soaking coat of boiled linseed oil and see what results. You can do other things afterward if the time honored preservative treatment does not give a result you find satisfying. I don't mean to soak it in a bath of oil - just smear on enough to wet all surfaces and let it stand soaking into the wood for 24 hours. After that time wipe away any that has not been absorbed because your stock will then have enough. After standing another day or so rub the wood HARD with the palm of your hand until your palm is hot and feels like it might blister. It probably won't and you'll probably like what emerges.
 
Thanks for posting. It's like being a kid again on Christmas morning opening the big present, isn't it?:)

I got two CMP Garands a couple years ago. I would have got a carbine too, but I have my old Blue Sky Underwood I paid $120 for, nearly two decades ago.
 
No recent Korean returns that I know of. I think the Blue Sky imports from about 20 years ago, were primarily Korean? They were also re-marked as imports. The CMP carbines are not, other than the Austrian and some of the German ones which were marked according to edict by the occupation forces after WWII. Those marks are sought after, unlike the import marks on the Blue Sky carbines.

Most of the recent ones are Greek, Italian or from the "batch" that circulated about in Austria or various parts of Germany, post WWII, so the experts say. Some also came back from South America, but I think those were doled out previously?

They are great little rifles in my opinion. Mine (Inland) is in pretty good condition, except for the funky birch replacement stock and shoots very well.
 
Wow... don't take this the wrong way but that looks a lot rougher than my rack grade NPM looked when I got it. I'm only concerned because I have a service grade inland coming and was hoping it would be in nicer shape than my NPM. I guess it's the condition of the barrel primarily that determines the grade, as they say.

I'm sure yours will pretty right up with some attention to the wood, though. Be sure to keep us informed, etc.
 
That wood is going to look great after a gentle cleaning, followed by a few coats of oil (BLO or Tung). Do it just like krs said above, then post more pictures of your beautiful carbine.
 
SaxonPig ,
Nice carbine, the box came through without a scratch.
around 1992-93 I got my M1 rifle through the DCM and the US mail delivered it to me at my address. The mail lady said, "it looks like a gun" as she got the box out of her mail jeep.
 
That wood is going to look great after a gentle cleaning, followed by a few coats of oil (BLO or Tung). Do it just like krs said above, then post more pictures of your beautiful carbine.

Plus one.
 
CMP Rack Grade Carbine I got in June.

I think someone made a booboo when it was graded. This was one of the nicest carbines in the South Store and shoots like a dream. :)

I looked at a lot of carbines and they all generally looked like Saxon's. They are fantastic, rock-solid reliable carbines with well-seasoned stocks. They will all clean up great.


Here's the one we brought home for 419.00
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Nice SAXONPIG,

Just wait until you shoot it. Then you will fall in love all over again. Such good memories. Just curious as to what you are planning on doing for the stock. Whatever you do please take pictures of the process and post them. I am always looking for something new to try. Also, if you ever make it to Idaho, I have a sand blasting cabinet and some parkerizing solution that I would offer for your use.
 
Well, this one woman in line made a face like she'd just smelled an open sewer and spat out "Please don't pick up your WEAPON (her emphasis) until I'm out the door!"

Ma'am, if it wasn't for this piece of history I'm picking up today, you'd be speaking German.
 
Here are two I picked up last year, service grade IBM and standard products

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Oi wojownik... did yours come with magazines or did you insert some before the pics? AFAIK they don't come with mags. At least mine didn't. :D

My NPM rack grade looked about like your IBM. At least the stock did. I hope my inland comes with a non-potbelly stock so I can try it out.
 
1K - I picked these 6 mags from at a gun show just before these M1s arrived. The mags are WW2 vintage, unissued (the "rust" looking stuff is actually dried grease/cosmoline).

After seeing pictures of really neat quality service grades posted on the CMP forum, I was a little dissappointed at the stocks on the ones I received (the camera flash brings out a bit more of the "ugly" than they look under regular light, though). The finish on the metal is outstanding, however. I'll will likely not refinish the stocks. There's a lot of history and GI sweat soaked into these babies

Plus, on the other hand, they are both USGI stocks (M1 and M2) ... and did not have the big ol' Italian stamp on them.

And, on the other, other hand, I got the order shipped within 30 days of sending my paperwork to CMP last year (I truly sympathize with them trying to cope with the continuing flood of orders - 3 months for carbines and up to 6 months for Garands).

I picked up my Garands around 5 years ago - took a few months, but when the came, I was astonished at how nice they were. And still are!
 
My first CMP experience was alot like the first time I had sex, I didnt exactally know everything I was doing, it was over way to quickly, and left me....COMPLETELY satisfied :D ........oh except that my "first time" with CMP produced me a little one in the form of a M1 Carbine ;)
 
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