Apple and Google App Stores have removed Gunbroker's mobile app.

[Lycidas Janwor]

Take it however you want.

You make a rather sweeping claim, with zero proof. Let me make a proposition: 1 + 1 = 2 is this true? If you claim that any logical, clear thinking, reasonably intelligent person would say "No, this is a false statement." then I'd say that particular person has lost his or her ability to function even at a nominal state.

 

[IdaD]

Surprised that there are so many iPhone users here. It is always a good idea to throw your money to those that despise you.

I doubt Apple or Google are very gun friendly but frankly I worry more about privacy on a smartphone and I definitely trust Apple more than Google in that regard.

I wasn't aware there even was a gunbroker app until just now. You can still access it on Safari.

 

[jmorris]

Well, be honest. It is really very creative. Wouldn’t you do the same for your side if you could think of a way?

It’s water eroding granite. We are just trying to stay the same despite the constant erosion of our rights.

That said, I am all for the right of a business to do something I don’t agree with as long as I am not forced to support them.

 

[CapnMac]

"Destructive devices" are clearly defined by the BATFE,

Except they are not using ATF definitions nor any other rule of law, they are just applying the EULA (that thing none of us actually read and just press the "Accept" button). The original EULA (End User License Agreement) you accepted allows them to make changes to the Terms of Service, and then notify you when you upgrade or at some expiry time.

Now, to sterr this back on topic, have you tried to just reload the app? Your login credentials should not be changes, so you should be able to regain access if the app loads.
If that fails, you can, as noted above, just ues the internet browser to access the GB site.

Now, for 2¢, you should know that iOS and OSX both have rather an ugly wireless access flaw which Apple refuses to acknowledge. It's been known since DefCon21. The vulnerability is greatest when you bring a Personally Owned Wireless Device into a secured wireless LAN environment that evildoers (or penetration testers) are after. Your passwords and user identity, along with the business ones are likely to e broadcast in the clear. Mind you, the same vulnerability exists with Android POWD in a similar situation.

The above is why I have stripped saved p/w off my ohne and disabled automatic logins to wireless networks.

 

[earlthegoat2]

Here is further reading on the subject. Dated September of 2018.

https://modernrifleman.net/2018/09/11/google-removes-gunbroker-app-from-the-play-store/

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Except they are not using ATF definitions nor any other rule of law, they are just applying the EULA (that thing none of us actually read and just press the "Accept" button). The original EULA (End User License Agreement) you accepted allows them to make changes to the Terms of Service, and then notify you when you upgrade or at some expiry time.

Now, to sterr this back on topic, have you tried to just reload the app? Your login credentials should not be changes, so you should be able to regain access if the app loads.
If that fails, you can, as noted above, just ues the internet browser to access the GB site.

Now, for 2¢, you should know that iOS and OSX both have rather an ugly wireless access flaw which Apple refuses to acknowledge. It's been known since DefCon21. The vulnerability is greatest when you bring a Personally Owned Wireless Device into a secured wireless LAN environment that evildoers (or penetration testers) are after. Your passwords and user identity, along with the business ones are likely to e broadcast in the clear. Mind you, the same vulnerability exists with Android POWD in a similar situation.

The above is why I have stripped saved p/w off my ohne and disabled automatic logins to wireless networks.

You are right of course.

Regarding the back up it’s not happening.

The first reason I got a new phone was that the battery on my iPhone 5 was shot and would bleed dry in no time. It became a safety concern given my line of work.

Second, Apple stopped supporting the iPhone 5. Since I manage my bank accounts and credit card via mobile apps I didn’t feel comfortable having an unsupported device interacting with my financials.

I figured this lack of support was why I hadn’t seen GB updates. But if it’s not even available in the App Store, updates can’t happen. So now we are talking an app that isn’t being supported at all and I’m going to use my credit card with it. No thanks. I’ll just use their full website.

And I learned something. I backed up my contacts on the cloud but not my apps because I didn’t want to pay for more storage. I figured I’d just redownload them. The app update was actually a device to device update.

I MIGHT go back to the store and ask them to transfer it, but like I said I don’t really want to purchase anything through an app that isn’t being updated for security.

Live and learn.

 

[rpenmanparker]

You make a rather sweeping claim, with zero proof. Let me make a proposition: 1 + 1 = 2 is this true? If you claim that any logical, clear thinking, reasonably intelligent person would say "No, this is a false statement." then I'd say that particular person has lost his or her ability to function even at a nominal state.

You have no idea what I was talking about. I was not talking about scientific fact. I was talking about the understanding of what is read or heard. Different audiences believe different meanings. None are right or wrong, but sometimes certain authorities give a status to certain meanings. For all practical purposes those meanings become truth until they are no longer in fashion.

 

[JONWILL]

I always just used the browser. Didn't know they had an app

Same here. I just have the website shortcut on my home screen

 

[Lycidas Janwor]

You have no idea what I was talking about. I was not talking about scientific fact. I was talking about the understanding of what is read or heard. Different audiences believe different meanings. None are right or wrong, but sometimes certain authorities give a status to certain meanings. For all practical purposes those meanings become truth until they are no longer in fashion.

You said: All writings, be they religious, legal or what have you are always interpreted by each and every reader even or especially the ones who maintain the writings are divinely given. There is no absolutely true meaning of anything written or said.

I know exactly what you said, you made a huge, broad sweeping claim that included the words "all writings", "anything written or said" and the phrase "what have you...". I simply took your reasoning to disprove your point, and then I gave you a simple, written down (typed, actually) math example to prove once more, that your broad, sweeping statement is not true. After all, there are many math books out there for people to read. Mathematics, in its written form, is another form of writing that conveys truth or error. In fact, when you get into mathematical theory, in its highest forms, by the brightest minds like Albert Einstein, you get into more of a philosophical debate on how things work, than a functional, factual discussion on problem solving.

Of course there is right and wrong. There is true, and there is false. Math is the simplest way of proving this, but I'm not going to get into a debate on a gun forum about your philosophical belief that everything is subjective and that there is no objective truth. You are simply wrong.

 

[rpenmanparker]

You said: All writings, be they religious, legal or what have you are always interpreted by each and every reader even or especially the ones who maintain the writings are divinely given. There is no absolutely true meaning of anything written or said.

I know exactly what you said, you made a huge, broad sweeping claim that included the words "all writings", "anything written or said" and the phrase "what have you...". I simply took your reasoning to disprove your point, and then I gave you a simple, written down (typed, actually) math example to prove once more, that your broad, sweeping statement is not true. After all, there are many math books out there for people to read. Mathematics, in its written form, is another form of writing that conveys truth or error. In fact, when you get into mathematical theory, in its highest forms, by the brightest minds like Albert Einstein, you get into more of a philosophical debate on how things work, than a functional, factual discussion on problem solving.

Of course there is right and wrong. There is true, and there is false. Math is the simplest way of proving this, but I'm not going to get into a debate on a gun forum about your philosophical belief that everything is subjective and that there is no objective truth. You are simply wrong.

You are proving my thesis. You disageee with me. You think you are right. I think you are wrong. Who’s to say? No god comes down and settles the argument. In science the ultimate truth is sometimes displayed, and even then the truth is often not believed. Do I have to mention climate change? So there is right and wrong, but fallible humans are not mentally equipped to know which is which. For things that matter to us we have set up courts to settle the disputes. You and I both wish it were different, but it is not.

 

[Lycidas Janwor]

You are proving my thesis. You disageee with me. You think you are right. I think you are wrong. Who’s to say? No god comes down and settles the argument. In science the ultimate truth is sometimes displayed, and even then the truth is often not believed. Do I have to mention climate change? So there is right and wrong, but fallible humans are not mentally equipped to know which is which. For things that matter to us we have set up courts to settle the disputes. You and I both wish it were different, but it is not.

Yes, humans may be fallible but objective truth is not, and yes, humans do have the capability to know what is right and what is wrong. Sure, people can have different opinions but when push comes to shove, objective reality aka truth will come out. If you lie to someone, that is, not tell him or her the truth, that person is smart enough to figure out truth or falsehood (much of the time through trial and error or experience) . For example, you can tell a person to go stick their hand into a fire because you believe it will not harm that person's hand. But that person will know you are lying and will not stick his/her hand into a fire just because you told them them no harm will come to them. In other words, objective truth will be grasped by said person because that person knows that 1. the fire will indeed burn them severely and 2. that person knows the difference between the truth and a lie.

There is such thing is absolute truth, aka objective truth. Also, please quit including me into your opinions (see above]. This is my last post on this subject.

 

[SilentStalker]

I own a business that is heavily influenced by politics. We keep our political beliefs out of our business dealings, so no I don't do the same. Suppressing someone's Constitutional rights is not okay, regardless of how you try to spin it.

Agreed. I seem to recall a certain bakery that was forced to serve a certain group of people after being castrated and driven through the mud and eventually run out of business for that act. How is this no different? How can you force one business to comply and serve a group yet it’s ok for businesses to not have to comply and serve others? One group has clear rights protected under the BOR. The other is a protected class by the USSC...how do you differentiate? Gun owners should not be taking this. Imo, one of the large advocate groups like GOA should sue...I mean after all that’s what the couple did in the above scenario if I recall correctly.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

It’s water eroding granite. We are just trying to stay the same despite the constant erosion of our rights.

That said, I am all for the right of a business to do something I don’t agree with as long as I am not forced to support them.

Like using our tax dollars to pay for Planned Parenthood........

 

[cowboy77]

I have a new iPad and an iphone6. I have GB app on both of mine. I haven’t seen any updates for it but the iPad uploaded the app from the cloud when I set it up in January this year.
Worse case you can open it on the web site and add site to my desktop.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

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I have a new iPad and an iphone6. I have GB app on both of mine. I haven’t seen any updates for it but the iPad uploaded the app from the cloud when I set it up in January this year.
Worse case you can open it on the web site and add site to my desktop.

Already stated several times. Please read the entire thread before posting.