68'chevelle
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Should I get a AR-15 or M1 Garand, for my next multi-purpose gun?
AR-15 or M1 Garand
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LB7_Driver
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This is a no-brainer:
GET BOTH.
If you can't get both at one time, I'd go with the AR first.
GET BOTH.
If you can't get both at one time, I'd go with the AR first.
How about an M1 Garand and a $109 (Rainier Arms) Stag stripped lower receiver for the future AR15?
If you are concerned about the possibility of another ban next year and can only get one before then, then get the AR15 now.
If the risk of another ban is not high on your concerns, then get the M1 as the supply does seem to be getting to the tail end and prices will only continue increasing over the years.
But if you can swing the Garand and a stripped lower for the AR then you get the best of both right now and the fun to build up the AR over the coming months.
If you are concerned about the possibility of another ban next year and can only get one before then, then get the AR15 now.
If the risk of another ban is not high on your concerns, then get the M1 as the supply does seem to be getting to the tail end and prices will only continue increasing over the years.
But if you can swing the Garand and a stripped lower for the AR then you get the best of both right now and the fun to build up the AR over the coming months.
Ratzinger_p38
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Yeah right. Dont worry. AWB failed once (in 04) and the D's have a long memory of what happened in 94. If they try it, my guess is it wouldnt be till a 2nd Obama/Clinton term.
And go with the Garand. Even though it is not a target, prices arent going down and AR's are common as dirt.
And go with the Garand. Even though it is not a target, prices arent going down and AR's are common as dirt.
cmidkiff
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Both. I can't imagine a firearms collection being anywhere near complete without at least one good 'battle rifle' type .308 and one good 5.56 'poodle shooter'. If the budget only allows one at the current time, .223/5.56 ammo is much cheaper than .308 is, and it looks to me as if it's going to stay that way for a while.
I'm figuring AWB2 is inevitable, just hoping that we retain enough influence to keep a sunset clause in it. There's no pro-2a candidate left in the race (my apologies to the Ronulans, but he hasn't got a prayer).
Buy the AR's, AK's, 30 round mags, .50bmg's and whatever other evil looking weapons you might want... sooner rather than later. If the ban doesn't happen? Great! You wanted these guns anyway, right? Hope for the best, work towards what you want, but be ready for the devil herself to take her seat in the oval office.
I'm figuring AWB2 is inevitable, just hoping that we retain enough influence to keep a sunset clause in it. There's no pro-2a candidate left in the race (my apologies to the Ronulans, but he hasn't got a prayer).
Buy the AR's, AK's, 30 round mags, .50bmg's and whatever other evil looking weapons you might want... sooner rather than later. If the ban doesn't happen? Great! You wanted these guns anyway, right? Hope for the best, work towards what you want, but be ready for the devil herself to take her seat in the oval office.
The Deer Hunter
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Guys, I don't think he wants to know which one is more plentiful or which one is going to be banned next, I think he wants recommendations on what rifle would do him more good as a multi use "ranch" kind of rifle.
If the Dems get the presidency, and retain control of Congress, I think we'll see a ban.
This issue is just too tempting for them, and they can't control themselves. It's in their blood.
Sure, they've learned their lesson: next time there won't be any sunset clause.
So I say an AR. And spare parts.
Outlaws
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No it won't. We went over this in a thread a while back.
As currently worded, AR15s would be "assault weapons" and anything made after the ban would not be available for civilian sale, and since all currently produced ARs would be grandfathered in, there would not be a single AR that would not already be an "assault weapon"...thus, for an AR15, there would be no "conversion kit" since there is nothing to convert.
However the aftermarket would be hit hard since a limited supply leads to limited demand, even though there are a lot of ARs.
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The problem I see with the M1 Garand is the limited array of ammunition that the rifle is supposed to shoot. You cant just walk into a Walmart and grab any ol' box of .30-06. The rifle calls for M2 ball; found only as surpluss. It's cheap at the moment, tho it will surely dry up sooner or later; and if you dont reload, you will have a problem.
Sunray
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No AR is as versatile as any .30-06 rifle. No standard AR will kill every game animal in North America with no fuss.
"...The rifle calls for M2 ball..." Nope. The rifle was designed to use .30 M1 ammo with its 174.5 grain bullet. Not .30 M2. There was no such thing as .30 M2 ammo until 1939-40. Any regular(no 'light magnums') 150 to 180 grain bullet factory load will do nicely.
There's just something about an M1 Rifle that no other rifle has. No AR even comes close. Go to the CMP jumps the hoops and buy an M1.
"...The rifle calls for M2 ball..." Nope. The rifle was designed to use .30 M1 ammo with its 174.5 grain bullet. Not .30 M2. There was no such thing as .30 M2 ammo until 1939-40. Any regular(no 'light magnums') 150 to 180 grain bullet factory load will do nicely.
There's just something about an M1 Rifle that no other rifle has. No AR even comes close. Go to the CMP jumps the hoops and buy an M1.
Bartholomew Roberts
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I think your interpretation of an as yet uninterpreted piece of legislation is quite optimistic. During the previous, much milder ban, ATF took the position that stripped lowers were not grandfathered under the 1994 ban. If they ever have the votes in Congress to pass an abomination like the McCarthy ban, I have a hard time believing that ATF is going to sit back and allow thousands of stripped lowers to be grandfathered - especially since their budget will be set by the same people who just passed the ban.
MarshallDodge
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Tough question.
I have a Garand and an AR, the AR gets shot a lot more than the Garand.
Garands are a very cool gun but are big and heavy.
Ammo cost for the AR is a lot less.
AR is more accurate.
I agree with Run&Shoot. Buy a Garand and a Stag receiver then all of your bases will be covered.
I have a Garand and an AR, the AR gets shot a lot more than the Garand.
Garands are a very cool gun but are big and heavy.
Ammo cost for the AR is a lot less.
AR is more accurate.
I agree with Run&Shoot. Buy a Garand and a Stag receiver then all of your bases will be covered.
possum
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i say get the ar and have gun with it!
If purchased from the CMP, HXP- Greek Surplus .30-06, is usually cheaper then, 5.56x45 NATO (M855 or M193)......at least for now. But, of course it depends on where you make the purchase from. And, there will always be an expection(s).
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Kind of Blued
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Does this mean that under the ban, I can buy all the AR uppers in all of the different calliber/barrel length configurations that I want?
I have been trying to figure this out for a while (a day or something) with no success.
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Go with the AR if you ain't got one already, Get the Garand if you can afford to feed it!
Neo-Luddite
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Even though it is not a target
yet
BTW-ammo from CMP is fully HALF the cost of 5.56 these days and is just sweet. By adding an adjutable gas nut the m-1 can load many commercial offerings in .06.
The CMP has A LOT of ammo yet.
I've been toying with an AR purchase (esp. if Uncle Sugar sends out checks soon). But I'd be torn to NOT buy another M-1 anyway with the money; most Garand owners will tell you the same I'd bet.
Most important of all, have you shot both?
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BTW-ammo from CMP is fully HALF the cost of 5.56 these days and is just sweet. By adding an adjutable gas nut the m-1 can load many commercial offerings in .06.
The CMP has A LOT of ammo yet.
I've been toying with an AR purchase (esp. if Uncle Sugar sends out checks soon). But I'd be torn to NOT buy another M-1 anyway with the money; most Garand owners will tell you the same I'd bet.
Most important of all, have you shot both?
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Two very different types of rifles. Cannt compare.
P-32
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Neo-Luddite. I had to laugh when I read your post.....Your toying with the idea of a getting a AR with the extra $, and I'm toying with the idea of yet another M-1 with the extra $. We must be smart stinkers.
But I gotta tell ya I shore do like my AR.
66 chevelle, It's a toss up. I think everyone should own a M-1 Garand as they part of our history and are just plain fun to shoot. But like so many others I worry the AR might be hard to get if you wait too long....
Creature
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Dont be stupid. Get the Garand.
RustyHammer
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I love Garands (have a couple dozen), but, I would still get an AR-15 with all the "evil" features (even if I had no Garands) before the politicians screw things up again. CMP has enough Garands to last for a few years -- from all reports. Prices may change .. but that's the way the game goes.
YMMV
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