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AR 7.62x39

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45aber

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I am ready to by a AR in 7.62x39. I've been looking for information awhile and it seems like the only drawback is magazine availability. I saw a couple of thirty round ASC mags and bought them for $50. Now I have my eye on two different ARs both $800. Any reasons to change my mind. I have an SKS with a folding stock that works fine. Should I go for the AR or just sell the mags?
 
I say go for it... if you hate it, you can sell the stuff and do a .223/5.56 upper.
 
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=611354 is my experience with the 7.62x39 AR

I really do like mine for what I use it for. Mags are not a problem if you know where to look; or were not for me.....

I have a few other weapons in that caliber so it was a natural pick for me.

I do not shoot corrosive ammo in mine but that is my choice.

I use 154gr Tula for close (less than 150 yards 100 is better) in mine for pig popping. The 5.56 with proper ammo will drop them in their tracks also but I wanted to try the AR in 7.62x39 so....there u go!
 
I'd look at the Rocker River lowers configured to take Ak mags. They're not cheap but will be more reliable. Unfortunatley they aren't currently selling the lowers seperately.
 
ive got one in a bushmaster. It runs great with cproducts mags with the mag springs replaced by wolf extra power ak mag springs. it shoots moa with good handloads and will do 1.5 inch at a 100 for 5 shots with even wolf black box.
 
I'm looking at a Bushmaster used upper with a new Stag lower. Has anyone done improvements to the feed ramps? I saw a reference to using A4 feed ramps and grinding to blend barrel and receiver feed area.
 
My YHM upper every so often has light primer strike with Tula only. I manly shoot corrosive ammo out of this one but on my next trip I'm going to add a stronger hammer spring to see if it fix the problem.
 
My son in-law has one made by Model 1 Sales. Very reliable after a change of the hammer spring. He had light strikes as well.

I think 7.62x39 is a great option for an AR. You can run cheap ammo through it or more expensive. Its also a good choice for handloads. I wish there were more bullet choices!

This caliber is also good for deer and hog hunting.
 
I have to wonder why anybody would want an AR in x39 UNLESS it would take real AK mags.

Actually a good question.

Seems like my AK mags weigh twice as much as my 7.62x39 AR mags. Maybe just a preconceived notion?

Most of my hunting (anymore for pigs) I usually just use the 10 round mags; not always but I seem to be using them more now than before. Used to grab 2 30 round mags and head out the door but now with my hunting pack, snacks, water, and a few other things it seems like two 10 round mags and a 30 loaded full (in the pack) I always come home with unfired rounds. In my area we are not totally over ran by the swine and what we do have are hard to shoot and track because of all the water and food sources available for them.

Used to wait until some of my friends herd went into heat and just sit on his porch and wait for the Boar to show up after sunset. If the friend wanted more piggies we waited, if not, the Boar was toast before the gleam in his eye got serious.
 
If your a reloader then get the 300 blackout. I can make blackout ammo cheaper than '39 making my own brass. Don't get me wrong I love the '39 and have an unissued 51 Tula SKS and an AK but passed on the AR platform in '39 once I found out how much I love the Blackout in the AR.
 
My Colt 7.62x39 upper runs anything steel or brass I've tried to date. ASC mags are working fine for us folks. I just wish they made them in 20-round versions.

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I just finished a Model 1 with dsa lower and 30 round mags (ar stoner) from midway and the rifle is flawless and very accurate. The mag problems are obviously solved. This rifle also shoots 1 moa with match bullets. My 123 g hornady loads chroned a little over 2600 fps with no pressure signs using aa1680. I think I will kill and elk with it this fall just to make my 300wm jealous. Ha. Seriously I wish I had got one of these years ago.
 
biggest advantage to the 762x39 over the blackout or the .30 rem or the 6.8 to me is i can buy cheap wolf ammo and take the gun to camp and blast 500 rounds and not even have to worry about picking up brass. I bought 10 cases of wolf black box hp for a 120 bucks a case off of a friend of mine a while back and ive gone through about half of it without any troubles as long as i dont get lazy with the cleaning. It doesnt shoot as well as my handloads but still does 1.5 inches at a 100 yards. I cant load my own any cheaper.
 
I suggest an AR chambered in .300 Blackout. It'll give you 7.62x39mm ballistic performance BUT you'll be able to use standard 5.56mm magazines (and fill those magazines to full 5.56 capacity with .300 BLK cartridges).

See - http://300aacblackout.com/
 
You do not have to do anything to the mags. Springs are fine. Remember guys...even on the internet the info you get is anywhere from a month to 10 years old. It just gets repeated until it becomes "truth", except it is just outdated info or old, not yet solved problems. You guys keep repeating old info instead of listening to new info. AR stoner 30 rnd mags(purchased from Midway) work perfectly without any mods to springs, etc.
 
You do not have to do anything to the mags. Springs are fine. Remember guys...even on the internet the info you get is anywhere from a month to 10 years old. It just gets repeated until it becomes "truth", except it is just outdated info or old, not yet solved problems. You guys keep repeating old info instead of listening to new info. AR stoner 30 rnd mags(purchased from Midway) work perfectly without any mods to springs, etc.
I've been running 7.62x39 ARs since during the dark ban days when all we had were plastic ten-round magazines. I've hunted Texas deer and hog with them for well more than a decade, and probably put ten or fifteen thousand rounds downrange through various builds. I am absolutely not a guru or expert, but I am what I would characterize as a pretty dang experienced user. In all of that, I've run every single brand and style of magazine for the 7.62x39 AR that I could find. The latest/last generation C-Products mag (now ASC) are clearly the best, and emulate the FrankenMags of old.

But they are not perfect.

If you shoot brass cased ammo and keep the magazine clean - you'll likely never have any issues. However, if you shoot polymer or lacquer coated steel cased ammo, you will likely (greater than .5 probability, in my experience) experience a feed hangup in the current ASC/C-Products magazines sooner or later. The combination of steel cased ammo, highly tilt-y follower (needed to make the round stack work in the straight magwell of the AR), and heavy ammo stack above the spring (remember that the 7.63x39 round is roughly twice as heavy as the 5.56NATO equivalent) all seem to conspire to occasionally cause feed issues in these magazines.

The symptom is simple - the round stack jams up against the inside walls of the mag body somewhere down inside the body of the magazine and as a result nothing comes out the top. The fix is equally simple - either don't load the magazines all the way, alter your ammo choice, rigorously keep the insides of the magazine slick (I know of folk that spray the insides of the mags with dry-film coatings), or take the simple brute-force approach and use more robust springs. I choose to use the Wolff +5% AK magazine springs - they fit well, are designed specifically for the weight of the round stack, and seem to retain their rated tension longer than the stock magazine springs.

If you've managed to not experience this issue, that's great. But to dismiss it out of hand is not entirely appropriate IMO, because enough of us have experienced it to know that it is a very real potential issue that can be easily avoided if you're willing to think about it.

I choose to change the springs as soon as I get the mags in my hands. It eliminates a potential source of issue, and it doesn't cost a lot to do.
 
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