AR15.com or M4Carbine.net
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Ridgerunner665
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m4carbine is THE site for knowledge on AR 15's...
Some people get the wrong impression of it though...because they will not buy into this BS about "as good as"...its either Colt, LMT, Noveske, or its not...its that simple.
Most of those guys depend on their AR' and M4's to keep them alive.
They will tell you your Bushy, Stag, S&W, etc, etc, is a fine weapon for a weekend shooter...maybe even a LEO if the rifle has had the needed upgrades. But none of those are combat ready weapons...and they are 100% correct...like it or not.
Most don't like it much...myself...I like to know what the guys that live it know.
Some people get the wrong impression of it though...because they will not buy into this BS about "as good as"...its either Colt, LMT, Noveske, or its not...its that simple.
Most of those guys depend on their AR' and M4's to keep them alive.
They will tell you your Bushy, Stag, S&W, etc, etc, is a fine weapon for a weekend shooter...maybe even a LEO if the rifle has had the needed upgrades. But none of those are combat ready weapons...and they are 100% correct...like it or not.
Most don't like it much...myself...I like to know what the guys that live it know.
PercyShelley
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ar15.com is sort of like 4chan, but more gun-centric.
That said, it's got a lot of industry traffic so it's a good place to hear about new products, keep up on the latest caliber wars, etc.
M4carbine seems more civil, but there just isn't the same level of traffic.
I say lurk both!
That said, it's got a lot of industry traffic so it's a good place to hear about new products, keep up on the latest caliber wars, etc.
M4carbine seems more civil, but there just isn't the same level of traffic.
I say lurk both!
romma
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I respectfully disagree Ridge. I think my Bushmaster is combat ready enough. Certainly for a SHTF scenerio around here where I live. A lot of different combat scenerios come to mind that it would be fine for.
Not just weekend plinking.
themachine
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just curious... what makes an AR a "combat ready" weapon.
I'm just now learning about the AR so I'm a little curious.
I'm just now learning about the AR so I'm a little curious.
Harold Mayo
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Most of it seems to center around tables showing which company has what feature in it's guns (i.e. parkerized under front site base, properly-staked carrier key, etc.). It's my understanding that Charles Daly is producing AR's based off of information on those tables and has hit pretty much every point on them and still produced a good product for a relatively cheap price. Wonder what sort of stuff that stirs up?
On AR15.com you'll have to sift through a lot of crap to get your information while on M4carbine.net you'll have to put up with a lot of crap to get your information. It's just a matter of how you like dealing with crap.
If you buy a Colt, LMT, or Noveske, however, you will be praised and judged a wise man by the m4carbine crowd. Always take a look at who is using banner ads at the top of the site.
On AR15.com you'll have to sift through a lot of crap to get your information while on M4carbine.net you'll have to put up with a lot of crap to get your information. It's just a matter of how you like dealing with crap.
If you buy a Colt, LMT, or Noveske, however, you will be praised and judged a wise man by the m4carbine crowd. Always take a look at who is using banner ads at the top of the site.
guys, the smart guys at M4carbine also post on AR15.com. In fact, there's so much cross-posting between those two sites, tacticalforums, lightfighter, here, the glock and 1911 forums, etc that it's really kind of silly to think one forum has a monopoly on info.
the fact is the same solid info is available on almost all the forums. it's really just a matter of which posters you listen to.
honestly, it's not difficult to tell which posters are just parroting what they've heard and which posters have first-hand experience.
the fact is the same solid info is available on almost all the forums. it's really just a matter of which posters you listen to.
honestly, it's not difficult to tell which posters are just parroting what they've heard and which posters have first-hand experience.
variablebinary
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The B.S. factor is very low on M4C. Overall, it's an outstanding website.
Powder_Burn
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Best information comes from M4carbine and WeaponEvolution. ARFCOM seems to have a greater ratio of amateur posters with little expertise and abrasive opinions.
My impression is that the professionals who have such stringent requirements do so because they are relying on their weapons in life or death situations. Although I can choose to use what they do, I won't be able to stress the weapon anywhere near the levels they can. They probably put more rounds through their weapons in one week and in more extreme conditions than I will end up going through in half a lifetime or more. Not only that, but they need the weapon to continue running through all that abuse without things coming loose or breaking, which can mean the difference between winning or ending up dead. Sort of like how an average guy like me can probably drive a Formula 1 or NASCAR vehicle (read: basically get it going with some instruction), but I'll never be able to tap it's potential or push it to it's limits unless I get a lot of training and practice. However, the pro drivers would probably find a stock car off the dealers lot to be inadequate for winning a race.
electronrider
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ARFCOMM has a lot more than just ar-15's as far as it's boards go. I rarely go to the AR section, their survivalist area is one of the best one hte net. ( Low tinfoil, next to no religious mumbo jumbo, just good solid survivalist discussion).
Lots os mall ninjas in general chat over there. the AR variant board is pretty good tho.
Lots os mall ninjas in general chat over there. the AR variant board is pretty good tho.
Templar223
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Arfcom. Hands down, with caveat.
Arfcom is an encyclopedia of AR knowledge, but you need to go to the technical forums to access it.
Evaluating Arfcom's utility in the knowledge department by the content of the "GD" area (General discussion for non-arfcommers) is akin to rating the content of your local library by the number and type of homeless bums hanging out in it.
I've been around the internet for 14 years now and Arfcom has more information about the AR system than any site I've ever found. You won't be disappointed unless you're looking for AR info there in the GD.
I enjoy the GD forum there for its humor and the occasional nugget of info.
Technical forums are located under anything but General.
John
ETA: It's also hands-down the largest firearm site by membership.
Arfcom is an encyclopedia of AR knowledge, but you need to go to the technical forums to access it.
Evaluating Arfcom's utility in the knowledge department by the content of the "GD" area (General discussion for non-arfcommers) is akin to rating the content of your local library by the number and type of homeless bums hanging out in it.
I've been around the internet for 14 years now and Arfcom has more information about the AR system than any site I've ever found. You won't be disappointed unless you're looking for AR info there in the GD.
I enjoy the GD forum there for its humor and the occasional nugget of info.
Technical forums are located under anything but General.
John
ETA: It's also hands-down the largest firearm site by membership.
threefeathers
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I do both as do most of those on those sites. A very few have been banned by one or the other but actually not many.
romma
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Combat ready means being ready to fight. Maybe a semi-auto Bushmaster is not quite as durable as the Colt with all Milspec parts, but toe-to-toe,,, two soldiers armed with one and the other are just as likely to kill each other facing off from 300meters or less.
Combat ready enough if SHTF... And certainly better than nothing at all.
30 cal slob
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ah, never mind. lol.
"it is a small forum, but we love it."
"it is a small forum, but we love it."
the naked prophet
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Templar223 said:
Exactly what he said.
They also have lots of other good subforums without all the static. Check out the fitness forum as well.
I think both forums have far too much vendor influence and that a fair share of the vendors in the ar15 business are not the kind of people I like to do business with. I like to get my ar15 info here as much as possible. Its much better when the guys selling stuff aren't the ones pulling the strings.
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