Are the newer WASR Ak's decent HD protection

[Blackhawk30]

All of the Roamanian AK's i have have functioned 110% out of the box.
From the pre 2000's to the WASR.I got 'em all,and they all work.
Stay away from the underfolder.It will smack you in the face when shooting.Not pleasant.20 rd mags are lighter and make for better handling.
7.62x39 will blast through both sides of most houses or trailers.Pine furniture isn't likely to stop it.Appliances might.

 

[psp7304]

Can the WASR 10 be converted to use the 30 round mags?

 

[Mooseman]

I agree with the above posters, I would definitely recommend you have a set of muffs with the rifle that transmit regular sounds but block high impulse sounds. Heaven forbid she'd have to use it but without muffs she could count on losing some hearing.

 

[Bill2e]

The WASR 10s are selling like hotcakes. For the price one cannot go wrong. THE ammo is getting cheaper by last count. Since no more SKS in the pipeline, these are the way to go. .30 cal round can punch through half inch steel less than 50 yds.

BS! a .30 caliber can, but not an AK round. I have the pics to prove it. We shoot a Steel Pistol target (about 3/8" steel) with a 7.62x39, .223 & .308. Only the .308 went through.

the .223 & 7.62x39 made a big hole and dimple in the steel, but did not got through. In fact the .223 & 7.62 x 39 hole looked very simular.

Kind ends the AK is the supreme weppon that will detroy Godzilla and the AR can't shoot it way out of a wet paper bag debate.

 

[rogertc1]

WASR's are fine. However the round will kill your neigbors too.

 

[gym]

Someone give me a heads up if you see one local in South FL for a decent price. If she loses a little hearing she won't hear me mumbling when she walks away, lol. My neighboors are never home and it would have to go through 2 to 3 concrete block walls, I guess it depends on the ammo. I had thought about a shotgun, but the last one I sold 10 years ago because I never used it. I thought at least I might take this to the outdoor range in Sebastion and have some fun with it while teaching her. If it ended up just being a HD gun then I won't feel bad as if I spent a lot of money on it.

 

[jaholder1971]

Hey Guys, I love my WASR 10 and my Bulgy/Nodak NDS 74, but if I'm clearing the house I'm grabbing my 590 and 00 buck. In my little 6 room castle the longest possible shot in the house is about 20 feet and it's all wood frame, along with all my neighbors houses.

I'm not saying the WASR wouldn't work, but there are better options.

 

[Tommygunn]

Can the WASR 10 be converted to use the 30 round mags?

They don't have to be "converted," they use 30 rounders. Mine does easily. I have a 75 round drum mag I use for fun, too.

 

[rtz]

Can the WASR 10 be converted to use the 30 round mags?

Yes:

http://guncentral.net/Articles/LoCap-HiCap.html

 

[noyes]

Ballistic Penetration tests

Marine Corps' Project Metropolis

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6464268208010199091#

 

[benEzra]

WASR's are fine. However the round will kill your neigbors too.

If one lives in a brick or block house, penetration will be determined by load choice. I agree that military FMJ would be a poor choice, but there are good JHP's and SP's available in the caliber---Hornady 125gr VMAX, Wolf 8M3 124gr JHP (*not* regular black-box), and some of the imported 123gr softpoints are probably better defensive choices.

I agree with the above posters, I would definitely recommend you have a set of muffs with the rifle that transmit regular sounds but block high impulse sounds. Heaven forbid she'd have to use it but without muffs she could count on losing some hearing.

An AK with a 16" to 18" barrel is actually comparable in terms of peak dBA to a 3" or 4" barreled 9mm or an 18" to 20" barreled 12-gauge shotgun, and is less loud than a .357 revolver.

Basically, all centerfire firearms are above the threshold for hearing damage if fired in an enclosed space, but since you will only be shooting if you are in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm, the risk of hearing damage is a tradeoff. Personally, if I heard someone in my home or kicking in my door, I would want the rifle in my hands immediately rather than putting on earmuffs.

Ballistic Penetration tests
Marine Corps' Project Metropolis

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...8208010199091#

Do be aware that penetration tests involving military FMJ (possibly steel core) and multi-round bursts impacting on the same spot are not directly applicable to single-round or separated hits on masonry of civilian soft-tip JHP's or SP's. It is good to consider overpenetration risk when choosing a defensive load, though (IMO), but those tests somewhat overestimate the penetration of .223 and 7.62x39mm in the civilian HD role.

 

[aklovinguy]

BS! a .30 caliber can, but not an AK round. I have the pics to prove it. We shoot a Steel Pistol target (about 3/8" steel) with a 7.62x39, .223 & .308. Only the .308 went through.

the .223 & 7.62x39 made a big hole and dimple in the steel, but did not got through. In fact the .223 & 7.62 x 39 hole looked very simular.

Kind ends the AK is the supreme weppon that will detroy Godzilla and the AR can't shoot it way out of a wet paper bag debate.

I no this is an old thread but had to call your bluff.7.62x39 will penatrate 1/2 steel. ive done it with an sks. i may have bin shooting some of the china /poltech or whatever but i got the pipe to prove it

 

[nathan]

Most of the WASRs are sold or out of stock. No wonder , it s gaining reputation by the day for great value. And they mostly are bought by straw buyers of drug cartels to be smuggled into Mexico.

 

[gym]

What about a supressor for indoor HD, down here in FL, I have been told by 2 store owners, that all you need is that tax stamp, and either a corp. or a signature from local, law enforcment?
Both said fill out the form and I will call you when it arrives, I said , That's it? and both said yep, that's it. Seems like a great idea if you plan on using an AK for HD.

 

[M1key]

AK-47 loaded with Vmax bullets might penetrate a bit less than other types, but I haven't seen this tested...

For HD, I do like the idea of a SAR-2 or Saiga 5.45 loaded with Hornady's new Vmax ammo.



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[.308]

The wasr is a good reliable gun, you may need to file the magwell a little bit to get some mags to fit, but otherwise they're good rifles. I agree thats a little too much for hd though. A short pump shotgun can't be beat for that porpose.