Are there any gun brands that you will never buy from again?

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Have you ever bought a gun that was so bad and or the customer service was so poor that you swore that you would NEVER buy a gun from that company again?

It only counts if you owned a gun from that company, lets not just bash guns that we have heard bad thing about. I want to see which gun companies have messed up the most.

Mine are:

Kel-Tec (extremly poor quality of the gun but great customer service)

Taurus (poor quality and poor customer service)

Jennings (need I say more?)
 
Ruger. And politics has nothing to do with it. When the M77 rifle came out, I bought one in 6mm Remington, with a 3X9 Leupold scope. Nothing I could do would produce a group smaller than 5 1/2 inches at 100 yards benchrest.

I bought one other Ruger rifle...a 10/22. The trigger pull was unbelievable. About 10 pounds, with a mile of creep, and it would not go 20 rounds without a jam. I put a $200 Volquartsen action in this $140.00 rifle, in order to get it to compete with my 50 year old Winchester M74.

I have a Ruger Security Six that was my father's gun. The best Ruger I have ever owned, it's trigger pull is still horrible.

I have a Ruger P85 in 9mm. Totally reliable, but the trigger is abysmal. Not to mention the finish.

My son has a Ruger 22/45. Guess what? The trigger is pretty nice! Jams at least once per magazine.

A friend bought the little Ruger bolt action .22 Hornet. Three inch groups at 100 yards on the best day.

I'm done.
 
Springfield Armory. I have an old beef with them. No quality issues involved - I just don't like being promised a sales incentive to buy a gun, that they can't, or won't, deliver on a timely basis. I'll never buy another.

Edit- actually there was a quality issue that I forgot about. The M1A Scout rifle came with out-of-spec scope mount brackets, that the op-rod would bump into on every cycle.
I sent it back, they replaced the mounts, and had it back to me in five days.
At that time I was impressed. It went downhill from there.
 
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I forgot about my Ruger 10/22. If that was my first Ruger, I may never have bought another gun from that company. It was a jam-o-matic with all ammo and mags. It was a poor shooter, inaccurate for a .22 rifle. My MKII could shoot right with it and the 10/22 had a nice 6x32 scope on it in an effort to make it more accurate. There were some serious problems with this gun, Ruger was kind enough to send me another mag for it to see if that helped before I had to send it in. That was nice of them but it didn't work. I am tried of sending guns in so I sold it at a HUGE loss! I got $90 for it and I paid $150.

Luckly, I had a MK II that was a good gun so it didn't sour me on Rugers compleatly. I have owned several Rugers after the 10-22 and I think they are great guns for the money, some of the best deals out there.
 
"Pride of Spain" shotguns. My friend bought a SXS double. It was beautiful and inexpensive. 25 rounds later, it would not fire. My friend took it apart, thinking to make whatever parts were needed (at that time we both worked in a very large machine shop). Every part in the action was either "pot metal" or dead soft. Never, ever buy a "Pride of Spain" shotgun.
Quantrill
 
I'd have to say I'd never buy another Taurus. "Customer-no-service" sealed their fate with me! I just can't deal with them...and I'm looking for a wheel gun now!


Lexter in NC
 
Ruger

Had 2 mini 14s best group was about 8in at 50yds, 10-22 same thing, sold all three,. Maybe try a revolver 45lc.
 
Hi Point, I had the Compact 9mm for three weeks when the magazine disconnect button became stuck, the magazine would only stay in if I held it there.
 
Definitely Glock....had a G23, FTF, FTE, not terribly accurate and it didn't matter what I put through it or how many different mags I tried in it. I realize it was probably just a fluke that I got such a lousy one but customer service couldn't have cared less about it since I wasn't a big spender in their eyes.
 
MicroBalrog,

What's wrong w/ S&W? Politics should have no bearing on the Pre-agreement products as no money then goes into corporate hands, or are you just so turned off by that misfortune that you'd turn your nose up to, oh say, a 1959 N-Frame .44?

Just wondering.

Adios
 
Charles Daly. Parts machined by Cro-Magnon tech, slide metal was as soft as buttah. BUTTAH!

BUT, they did refund me my purchase price, and some people love theirs.
 
Kel-Tec...my wifes P32 failed on it's first trip to the range.

DW
 
Another vote for Ruger.
While the 22/45 is an admirable little plinker, the supposedly 'Target Grade' MK II that I have sucks.

From the factory there was a problem with the rear sight. It was improperly installed, so adjusting the screw would not change the sight. I ended up taking it to a smith to have it fixed. The trigger is beyond awful, and the extractor doesn't work. As for accuracy, but not accurate enough to be called a target pistol by any stretch of the imagination.
I've considered ordering one of the Volquarsten triggers for it, but will probably just get a Baikal IZH 35 instead.
 
What's wrong w/ S&W? Politics should have no bearing on the Pre-agreement products as no money then goes into corporate hands, or are you just so turned off by that misfortune that you'd turn your nose up to, oh say, a 1959 N-Frame .44?
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1. The topic says, "Who wouldn't you buy a gun from?" I would never buy a gun from S&W, but I could buy a gun, from Joe X made by them,, however...

2.If I could own guns, I'd go for hi-cap semi-autos.
 
Springfield Armory. Company has serious (fatal?) quality problems.

They were unable to get my new TRP to feed factory ball ammo after two extended stays at their service department (4 1/2 of the first 5 months of ownership). Add to this the machining on the slide and frame done by a chain saw, the "dehorned" edges that drew blood and the fact that the gun shot half a foot high and to starboard with factory ball ammo.

Then they got downright snitty when I had the audacity to politely ask them to fix it right the third time I had to sent it to them. Decided instead to pay a COMPETENT gun smith to fix it instead.

Passed on the M6 because of the name stamped on the side. Am building an M1A from parts instead of buying one of them. Next 1911 will say Valtro.
 
Believe it or not-SIG. Year ago last Christmas, wife bought me a brand new P210-5. Supposedly, only one in stock. Whole bunch of money.Rear sight has weak detent spring in it so that as I fire it, the detent releases and the sight screw unscrews itself, raising the elevation. SIG refuses to even look at it saying they don't warranty it even though they sold it. They told me to go out and buy a tube of Loc-Tite. That sort of negates the purpose of the adjustable sight. Very uncaring people.

NEVER AGAIN!!!!!
 
Guess I have been lucky with purchases over the last 30 years from:

Ruger
Kahr
Bushmaster
Glock
KelTec
Beretta
Century Arms
Winchester

No problems. I don't shoot as much as I would like - but not a lemon from any of those companies. I never had to contact anyone, so I can't complain about customer service.
 
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