Arm Thy Neighbor

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Travis - er Matt - I saw your trilogy for sale at a Clarksville, TN gun show last month. I passed on them because I hadn't heard of them before. I may buy them in the future.

I agree about arming your TRUSTWORTHY neighbors. I've given a Mosin Nagant with a few boxes of ammo to three of my male neighbors as gifts or 'thank you's' for favors. They are a real hit and ensure my neighbors have some firepower.
 
I don't think anyone is saying you should give firearms and ammunition haphazardly to anyone who happens to live close to you. But rather the idea that having a secure community is better for YOU. If you're the only house on the block not taken over by gang bangers how long do you think you'd last? OR just live in the county and don't have neighbors... :)
 
I was in the market for an AK variant, but I think I'll save up for that investor crate of SKSs.

I agree that there could be problems, and I think that this is one of those topics where using your common sense is really important. Don't give an AR-15 to the ex-con who lives next door - unless you happen to trust him with your life. Personally, I would favor arming a few neighbors, and then responding to any problems as a task force. Does that sound like it brings with it a whole mess of problems? absolutely, but It's the best plan I can come up with short of using roadblocks to quarantine the neighborhood. The one house hold I would lend a gun or two out to in a situation like this is a friend of mine who's house is located in a central position in the neighborhood. The only reason he doesn't have a gun is because he still lives at home, and his parents don't allow one due to "lack of need," although they have already said they would be open to it if TSHTF. Also, they have a garden and chickens, so I might be able to get a protection for food deal going.

Sorry for rambling, but I felt like sharing.
 
My next-door neighbor is a retired Customs border agent, I'd feel pretty safe with loaning him a firearm if he didn't have one. The rest of my neighbors, I either don't know well enough or wouldn't trust with that sort of responsibility.
 
I'm lucky in that my immediate neighbors are a mix of one who is a lifelong hunter, one that has 20+ years as a competition shooter and one is retired Navy.

Guns ain't a problem in this neighborhood. :D
 
Re-Published

Matthew, thanks for that.

Showed it to the wife.

She re-published it on her blog.

She says your material is welcome at her place any time.

If you need linky love, just holler.

We have your first two books. Didn't know the third was out.

 
I hate using the term SHTF on the good ol' THR, but let's keep in mind the subject of Mr. Brackens novels(mega disaster mixed with .gov tyranny) If hordes of refugees are overrunning your street or a few streets over, then arming your neighbor may be a matter of life and death. I have a neighbor that I know is a felon(he has told me so). He doesn't even know I own guns, but if doodoo goes down I would hand a spare rifle over the fence in 2.seconds
 
I just had a conversation with a neighbor regarding a string of 7 home burglaries going on around us the past 6 months or. I've been living 3 houses down from this guy and his wife for over 20 years, and only today learned he has firearms in 5 rooms of his home ready to rock and roll. We're talking things up with the others on our road, finally, too.
 
The thought has crossed my mind, but the hard truth is that the majority of my neighbors on this quiet wooded dead end street I call home, are the embodiment of everything I despise. My next door neighbors own a successful used car dealership with a reputation for shady business practices. They take issue with anything and everything my family does, and are impossible to deal with civilly.

For example, I was vacuuming my car one friday night last summer at about 8 pm. Rather than asking if I could keep the noise down, the woman storms over with cell phone in hand, yelling and threatening to call the cops on me if I didn't "shut that damn thing off" right then and there.

A few houses down, there is another well-to-do sue-happy family that views mine as inferior, the lady of the house being an IRS auditor who bears a striking resemblance to Hillary Clinton. There are more, and I could go on and on and on, but that wouldn't be very high road of me. All the good people that once surrounded me have either died or moved elsewhere, and they have been replaced with people like this without a single exception. These people have treated myself, my family, and my other neighbors with so much disrespect and unprovoked hostility, that I would not under any circumstances loan them anything, let alone a firearm, at a time like that.
Unsurprisingly, these elitist neighbors are hardcore leftists who have all, at some point, showed that they oppose gun ownership, nonconformity, property rights, and that they view those who are not as wealthy as them as inferior human beings. When something bad happens in the neighborhood, the finger is immediately pointed at my family, even though we've never at any point given anyone a reason to do so.


Needless to say, if/when it all comes crashing down around us, my plan for long term survival involves relocating. I have a group of friends and family who I've sat down with and discussed this scenereo with, and each one of us has at least 3 guns that can and will be loaned to unexpected members of our "community".
 
Cauberallies,
I would strongly recommend arming them with choice Lorcins and Jennings .25acp's. Tell them the man stopping .25 has been known to blow a man's head clean off. Direct them to older James Bond movies for proof.
Oh yea. Make sure to file the serial number off. Tell them the gun came that way.
Then call the police.
 
Not be a jackass, but how is this not an SHTF post? Doesn't every other SHTF posting on this site get locked?

I am not advocating that this be locked, or that the others should be either. (Frankly I don't really know why there is an aversion to those postings, when stuff that is just as preposterous gets posted is strategies & tactics.) I am simply confused as to how the decision making process works on this.
 
Of course, a much greater level of firearms training is highly desirable if there is time for it. If possible, take your non-shooting neighbor to a gun range now, in advance of a period of “civil unrest.” Training a non-shooter in the safe operation of firearms also shows your own overall knowledge of security issues. This demonstrated firearms proficiency will stand you in good stead when your leadership skills and tactical knowledge may benefit your overall neighborhood security posture.

I certainly agree with the first part of this, it's good if they're familiar with rifles beforehand. The last sentence confuses me though. Since when did owning a rifle bestow you with "leadership skills and tactical knowledge"?
 
Hand my neighbor a firearm -- so he can shoot me in the back for my firearm(s), food, water and other supplies.

Nah. =)
 
Happygeek: What I meant to convey in that paragraph was that to your non-tactical, non-shooting neighbors whom you have taken to the range for some training, you will be the go-to guy for all security-related matters later on as crime explodes. When neighbors gather to discuss the recent rash of burlaries, muggings or even home invasions, your name will be raised as the guy who knows what to do about security. After that, they are more likely to listen to you when you make recommendations for neighborhood security, such as limiting street access, keeping a watch, comms, alarm signals etc. So this is another benefit of giving some firearms training to non-shooting neighbors sooner rather than later or too late.

But if I went into that much explanation of each paragraph in my essay, it would have been 3,000 words instead of 1,400.

Matt
 
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Thorazine: The point of the essay isn't to convince you to hand a gun to your neighbor for no good reason. It's to maybe convince you to buy some inexpensive extra guns now, so you will have the OPTION to arm some carefully selected neighbors who really need them, later on. If you don't have the extra guns before the hyper-violence, you won't have the OPTION later on.
 
Most of my neighbors are as well armed as I am. Rural area, guns are very common.

But if I were going to lend a firearm to a neighbor and I didn't know that the neighbor was familiar with firearms and I didn't have time for training him, I'd hand him one of my 12ga doubles and a pocketful of 00 shells. Dirt simple to use, no worry about jamming, no need for pinpoint shot placement, no worry about a stray round travelling a 1/4 mile into my house, very effective for home defense, and the mere sight of it will often scare the pi$$ out of a looter.
 
Great article, Matt. My collection could already arm my neighborhood several times over. Just last week I picked up several more S&W Model 10 police trade-ins at a dirt cheap price, and I build AK's in my basement.

I highly recommend Matt's books to those who haven't read them, especially the first. It was especially vivid to me as I live in the area where much of the book takes place.
 
a bundle of single shot 12ga would be nice,
... those can be worked by anyone,
and no stray bullets flying around. :)
 
I agree. But I also live in a community where I probably have the least amount of guns! If there were some cooperation where I live, I but we could arm everyone in our county--twice.
 
I think it depends on the neighbors. I live in a college town. I wouldn't arm most of them.
 
Thorazine: The point of the essay isn't to convince you to hand a gun to your neighbor for no good reason. It's to maybe convince you to buy some inexpensive extra guns now, so you will have the OPTION to arm some carefully selected neighbors who really need them, later on. If you don't have the extra guns before the hyper-violence, you won't have the OPTION later on.

Indeed.

But when things are that bad "later on" -- I don't think I really can trust my neighbors.

Armed or not.
 
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