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Armed, piece by piece, via the net (news from down under)

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Armed, piece by piece, via the net

http://www.theage.com.au/news/natio...ece-via-the-net/2007/06/23/1182019433466.html

POLICE say it has always been relatively easy for bikie gangs to obtain handguns.

One method is to order guns in parts from overseas via the internet on sites usually based in the United States. The incoming packages are marked as "plumbing" or "sprinkler parts". The guns are assembled part by part.

This method relies on X-ray scanning not exposing the shape of the pistol frame. Police say other methods used to obtain handguns include:

■ Mail and phone orders (mostly international).

■ Theft from gun dealers and owners.

■ Commercial shipments using false documentation.

Pistols worth between between $900 and $1700 when sold legally to club shooters now fetch more than $5000 on the black market. Recent raids show how well-armed bikies are. In May 2005, police blasted through a wall of the Outlaws Motorcycle Club compound at Hastings and seized 12 firearms, ammunition and a crossbow plus five allegedly stolen cars, car parts and cannabis.

In Sydney in May last year, police raided the home of a Nomads gang member and seized a bullet-proof vest and 12 guns, including two assault rifles and a Chinese-made SKS with a shortened stock. They also found 10 pistols.

And in Adelaide last October, assault rifles, knives and ammunition were seized from the home of a Finks gang member. The cache included three assault rifles, a semi-automatic shotgun, two .22 rifles, a loaded revolver, two pistols and a pen gun, six machetes, knives, 2000 rounds of ammunition and a ballistic vest.
 
One method is to order guns in parts from overseas via the internet on sites usually based in the United States. The incoming packages are marked as "plumbing" or "sprinkler parts". The guns are assembled part by part.

Gee... that explains why my last orders from Numrich and Brownells were marked "sprinkler parts..." :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And of course both send out frames and receivers without going through the FFL process... and neither hesitate to send them out of the country...

Sure........ :scrutiny: :banghead:

Could it be that individuals in the United States and elsewhere are taking complete handguns, breaking them down into parts, and sending the parts in different packages marked to be something else?? :what:

Of course not! Only criminals would do something like that... :(

Not too worry, they'll soon pass yet another law...

Obviously the answer is to outlaw indoor plumbing... :evil:
 
Austrailians are getting guns illegally? Outlaw being Austrailian. those punks are going to be the last ones alive on earth anyway.
 
If this were all true, you would think it would be easy to get records of packages sent to those people they caught. I am sure the ATF would love to talk to anyone they got records on.
 
I'm just here for the gasoline.

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again you make me let loose the dogs of war!

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There is something obviously lost in the translation, but "Bikie Gang":D. I know a few folks who would be a little more than upset if someone called them "Bikies"

The cache included three assault rifles, a semi-automatic shotgun, two .22 rifles, a loaded revolver, two pistols and a pen gun, six machetes, knives, 2000 rounds of ammunition and a ballistic vest.

well I guess the pen is indeed mightier than the sword

sorry for the OT jokes, couldn't resist

This just goes to show that if someone needs a gun for alleged criminal activity then they will have it. It doesn't matter what the law is, guns will always be found in the wrong hands, laws just keep them out of the right ones.
 
FWIW the Age is a major broadsheet newspaper in Melbourne, our second-largest city. Reports like this are therefore tremendously significant as signalling some small headway in getting the message across about the way gun laws have been applied here. It might seem blindingly obvious to informed members of the law-abiding gun-owning community, but it seems that some journalists and others are getting the message that our much-heralded gun laws have targeted the wrong people.

The post-Port Arthur crackdown has made licensing so difficult that it has effectively kept guns out of the hands of many law-abiding citizens, including legal shooters. But despite tough laws, Australian criminals — unencumbered by scruples, derisive of the law and with no interest in licences — clearly have no problem getting their hands on firearms.

BTW In the land of Oz "bikie" means one percenter, as opposed to someone who just happens to ride a bike.
 
Daniel,

I certainly hope that is the case, and I wish the best for you and your fellow countrymen. However, I wonder what can actually be done while you still have Mr Howard reigning over your country?

This may be wishful thinking, but it seems there may be a similar movement afoot in this country. Perhaps the next Tory governement will set things at least a little straighter. Rest assured I'll be doing my bit.
 
The answer is obvious. Since firearms controls aren't working the Aussies need to ban motorcycles
Actually, that might work better. Isn't there a ban on motorscooters in one of the subcontinent countries? They were having a problem with assasins riding two at a time, driver and shooter, so they prohibited them inside city limits.
Obivously banning anything isn't going to stop bad people from doing bad things, it's just the nature of things.
 
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