Armed robber shot in face by armed victim in Texas just days after permitless carry begins

[Double Naught Spy]

This obsession with make/ model and caliber of the gun that some here are displaying is simply morbid....

Someone's life was in jeopardy. He used deadly force to defend himself and will live to see another day. That's the real importance here. And it should be sobering.

That may be the real importance to some, but since it is a done deal, then the specifics of the situation can be very interesting and educational depending on what the specific information that they provide. As I noted above, that sort of information often does come out later in various formats. If every time we discussed a shooting and we could only discuss that somebody's life was in jeopardy and he used deadly force to defend himself and will live to see another day, well then we really would not have much to discuss.

 

[Kleanbore]

As I noted above, that sort of information often does come out later in various formats

Often? I would say very rarely. Who would release such information?

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Often? I would say very rarely. Who would release such information?

I will rephrase. When these stories get covered later by gun writers, firearms trainers, or in police type publications, they often include such information. There used to be a lot of that information covered in Policeone.com. It may still be there now, but since they changed their viewing permissions, I don't get to read their stuff anymore. Ayoob tends to cover all the the details and then some in his recounting of incidents. Most firearms instructors I have trained with that had lectures and examples would cover such information often in great detail such as Rangemaster (various instructors), Clint Smith at Thunder Ranch, Ken Hackathorn, etc. Many times when shooting incidents get analyzed for publication, usually long after the event has occurred, they have the details.

So yeah, your average street encounter isn't likely to garner the attention of the writers, but the incidents that do tend to include detail and people eat it up, and not just newbies, but professionals as well. As such, it is no surprise that people would like to see this information coming out of the average news story, but as I noted, that isn't information the whole of the general public cares about and that information often isn't available to the newswriters immediately following events.

 

[Kleanbore]

Many times when shooting incidents get analyzed for publication, usually long after the event has occurred, they have the details.

Only if they were ever made known. Ayoob may have analyzed a case for an attorney. Other cases that lead to conviction and appeal may or may not yield the information.

Police reports in our area do not contain detail. Defenders are advised to make no statement to the media or to anyone else. If someone dies, there is no statute of limitations.

We had a resident use a shotgun to defend against a home invader the other night. The Prosecuting Attorney has declined to prosecute, but that could change. The invader died.

The investigators surely recorded the kind of gun, the ammunition, and the wounds, but we'll never know any of that.

Has it been a police shooting, it is quite possible that more information would be made public, as in cases described by Ayoob.

 

[chicharrones]

Well, that was quick and worked out well for the good guy.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/armed-robber-shot-face-armed-victim-texas

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The photo implies it happened in Houston. I sure do like when the story reports the part of town in happened in. Looks like they left that part out.

Looks like this is the place.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/victim-shoots-armed-robber-in-the-face-police-say/ar-AAOg2Tz

 

[Leader]

What I want to know is what were they wearing?

Slacks & a dress shirt or jeans & a t shirt?
What kind of shoes?
Hat? Gloves? What color?
Boxers or briefs?

These are IMPORTANT details that most people want to know.
Why bother printing the story if you leave out the details?

 

[230RN]

Often? I would say very rarely. Who would release such information?

I would not expect technical details to emerge right away, but I'd be interested in them. Yes. it may come out later.

We now know what gun Jack Ruby used to kill LHO, and even the bullet track in JHO. (I was amazed at what damage that snubby .38 did.)

Even with Bonnie and Clyde, it was interesting that the embalmer noted it was hard to embalm them with all the bullet hole leakage and this information came out right away;

I'm a bit squeamish myself, but I still find that kind of technical information interesting. Yes, a death, any death, can be tragic, but I don't see why yuu would object to the details which sometimes have to come out later.

Take the James Dean deadly car accident. Tragic, yes, but the traffic details were interesting and useful even though it was a while before the investigation was completed. (Moral: pretend you're invisible in a small car.)

So in an event like the OP, I wouldn't expect details right away but, like the details later available in that church shooting in Texas, I'm sure both you and I found the narrative by the church guardian himself fascinating.

This is the shooting to which I refer:
https://deanblundell.com/news/video...es-unreal-headshot-by-security-guard-graphic/

I can't find the interview with the "guardian;" I wonder if it has been cleansed from the 'net. Also, the You Tubes of the actual shooting seem to universally have a You Tube Privacy warning. That, in and of itself, is interesting.

Remember the pix of the victims of the Valentine's Day massacre? Pretty informative in its details.

Anyhow, I'm for details, which I am patient enough to wait for --even for years.

Terry, 230RN

 

[bdickens]

Ayoob tends to cover all the the details and then some in his recounting of incidents.

Ayoob tends to have access to information that doesn't come out until the trial.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Ayoob tends to have access to information that doesn't come out until the trial.

He even has access to information that doesn't come out even when there isn't a trial. He calls up the agencies involved and speaks to the officers involved. He and I went round and round on some aspects of the Tyler shooting years ago and his trump card was that he had called and spoken with many of the folks involved. My trump card was that I had physically walked the square and spoken with one of the courthouse deputies involved. The issue here is that he has a lot of detailed information because he speaks to the folks involved in many cases and they tell him things that maybe they didn't even write up in their police reports or that did come out in trial. Being a celebrity gun writer opens doors for him that others would not have gotten open.

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The point here is that he (and others) is able to get and use information and make it profitable for a limited audience (the gun folks who want it) after the fact and discuss things that aren't going influence the trial and the investigation isn't ongoing. Cops don't officially, or unofficially (usually) share a lot of details of ongoing cases, hence you won't find that information being distributed to the public, even if the general public found it of interest. So the pointing out of the failing of reporters to provide the detailed information right after the event that so many gun people want really isn't the fault of the reporters.

 

[bdickens]

So the pointing out of the failing of reporters to provide the detailed information right after the event that so many gun people want really isn't the fault of the reporters.

Bingo.

 

[CapnMac]

The photo implies it happened in Houston.

And, that's a big target, about 45 miles east-west and 50 miles north-south spanning 7 counties.

"Near Hobby Airport" is far more informative.

 

[chicharrones]

And, that's a big target, about 45 miles east-west and 50 miles north-south spanning 7 counties.

"Near Hobby Airport" is far more informative.

Yep.

Note to out-of-towners flying into and out of that south Houston airport: Don't fill up your rental car gas tank by the airport at night, or maybe even in the day time.