Arming the Neighborhood: What's YOUR plan?

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There was a movie called "The Wind and the Lion" one of my all time favorites.

One of the lines in the movie; Wasurie The magnificent was complaining how his enemies use cannons and weapons that spew indiscriminate death at long ranges and these weapons had no honor.

The sword and the rifle he used were honorable but since he had no cannons his enemies were not honorable.

Whatever the situation may our enemies not be better armed than us.
 
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Well I will be 100% honest. I only have 2 guns and their are 3 of us that live here so no neighbors are getting anything anyway.

I would never hand MY gun to someone who hadn't shot it before with me present.
 
My plan, hunker down and don't come knocking if you ain't prepared to take care of yourself. If it gets or looks like it might get even worse, boogie to buddy's ranch, we've been slowly preparing both our main residences and his place just in case. As to my neighbors, unless they bring something to the party, food, medicine, water, or arms, they're just more looters to me. Been here 2 years, and only one of them has done a decent thing or introduced themselves in all that time so tough noogies.
 
I'm training family members now, while ammo is easy to find and relatively cheap. Wife, daughter, nephew, and even getting my 85 year old dad back to the range to relearn his lost skills. My BIL is already a good shot, but he is miles away. My brother is a lost cause, he's afraid of guns. My sister can reload.

In a pinch, I can hopefully end up with at least one or more of these folks at my side.

Neighbors don't have any idea what I have or don't have. While they're nice folks and I would help any way I could, I have no idea what help they would be in an emergency and won't count on them for anything.

Az
 
I've told this story before, but it is applicable to this thread. My neighbors and I have never spoken a word to each other about guns; we don't have to.

One night a few years ago the police were chasing a guy through our neighborhood. A little later, all the dogs in our cul-de-sac started barking I grabbed the shotgun and flipped on the yard lights and went out on the back deck to see what was going on. From my back deck I could see all of my backyard neighbors out on their decks, all armed with a wide variety of small arms. We all hung out for a few minutes looking over out the back yards, then we nodded and waved to each other and went back to bed.

This is Utah, don't worry about us, we'll be okay.
 
If unarmed neighbors come to my door, they will be shot and preserved. I would be willing to share my "pork" jerky with the remaining neighbors if their food supplies get short.
 
Last Sept., I was in my office in the house one night about 2 a.m. By brother was over and we were shooting the breeze and looking online at some modifications he was going to make to his car. All of a sudden, my house started shaking and it sounded like an earthquake was taking place. Last just a few seconds. I grabbed a pistol, grabbed another and shoved it into his hands, and we both ran out the front door to see if we could determine what the hell was going on. As we got down to the driveway past my privacy fence, I saw my west-side neighbor exiting his front door with a 12-gauge autoloader. We met on the sidewalk between our homes. #30 seconds later neighbors from around the block come speeding up in an SUV, tell us they are chasing some guys who tried to steal a car on their street, did we see them. No but one of them ran across my roof. SUV neighbor calls cops who come out, search yard.
Verdict: Neighbor to the west can borrow guns. Neighbor to the east, who did not even come out of the house, can pound sand. The other neighbors, verdict is still out, except the three hot sisters who live two houses down. I think I can work out some barter system with them ... :)
 
I doubt I'd need to arm most of my neighbors. Maybe the older woman next door, but I have a feeling her son has more than a few guns. If need be, she is welcome to come on over till she can join the rest of her family, but I doubt I'll be loaning her any guns.
 
Every stat I ever see says about 50% of US households have guns and 50% don't. I also seem to remember reading that the average gun owner has about 5 guns. Seems like plenty of guns will be available to me if those stats are right.

I'm expecting that at least half of the neighbors have their own guns and those that don't would probably do what they are told to get one to protect their neighborhood (and their stuff).

Now, if there's an EMP event they will probably all be lined up in front of my house asking for a ride in one of my "old cars":0
 
I've got a tribe that I'll be with, and while it's never really been discussed at length, I know that I am by far the best armed of the group. I will happily bring plenty of guns and ammo to go around. I know others are bringing other things: skills, tools, supplies, spiritual powers, etc.

I would defend my neighbors' lives, but it would seem like it would probably be a waste to put a gun in their hands.

JOsh
 
I hate to bring up the movies, but you know how it always goes down. They wind up with a bunch of scared people with no training and they slowly get picked off by the enemy, the elements, and even conflict from within. I think it's pretty accurate about how it would go down. You can't make a force without DISCIPLINE, which is sorely lacking in modern America. There is safety in numbers, but there is also a lot of danger, depending on the circumstances. I can take care of my family by myself, but the block can take care of themselves. It's not my fault if they didn't prepare.
 
Honestly, I don't even know my neighbors.
Ok, I kinda know the ones downstairs because we lived in the same dorms freshman year but sure as the sun we're not buddy buddy.

What my education in Emergeny Management/Homeland Security has taught me is that people for the most part are ignorant, stupid, and whoefully unprepared. For example, one of the stories in my EM class that I've heard is about a woman who sat in front of her house after a hurricane. She was doing nothing except for making her behind conform to the shape of her chair when a reporter came up and asked what she was doing. What was her reply? "I'm waiting for FEMA to show up with water and such."

Mind you, this was merely hours after her home had been destroyed and she expected some authority to show up and magically provide all her needs.

I don't have a 9k acre parcel of land with all the goodies but prepardness has always been part of my mindset. Honestly, I can't even sleep if I don't have a stash of food and such somewhere within reach. Found out this is helpful even in non-disasters recently when I ran into some financial 'fun'. What I thought was originally about 4 days worth of food stretched into two weeks.

When it comes to guns, I think I'm pretty well set. Most of the people I hang around with are well armed but I supposed if someone in that circle needed a loaner I trust them. Everyone else? Forget it. Is it my fault they decided that they were above murphy? Not even close.
 
Depends on the scenario, if we are talking end of society SHTF, there is strength in a common defense. IF the freeloader has something to contribute, food, water, skillset, then yeah I would consider allowing a few folks to join up. Otherwise, sorry but no.

If you are talking like Hugo, Katrina, etc where your subdivision has become an island for a week to a few weeks, I have no problem helping out my neighbors. I would have no problem educating them as to what their "Big gov't will take care of me, guns are evil" mentality gave them. I have been in minor type situation before with an ice storm that cut us off for only a week. On day 3 some thugs started walking the streets of our neighborhood (came from 1 about 3/4 mile away), and looked to be casing the houses. I made a point to walk the streets as well OCing with my 40 (not threatening or touching the weapon and not staring them down, just walking). I did not show them where I lived, but I did show them that there was at least 1 home in the hood that would be defended. They suddenly decided to walk elsewhere.

I had more than a couple neighbors who did not own firearms tell me they were rethinking their conceptions on needing firearms for protection. Being cut off from police/fire for even a few days will make folks consider that.
 
There's a scene in the movie The Road in which the Man and the Boy encounter some very evil-looking armed marauders "driving" a barely functional diesel rig.
After the movie ended (good movie, by the way), I reflected on that scene and the whole scenario of the film.
It occurred to me that these would be pretty stupid marauders, and only looked evil/scary for cinematic convenience.
Perhaps at the beginning of an apocalypse there'd be guys and gals like that, all showy and "intimidating" but after a few years of marauding luck would run out and the remaining ones would go low-profile, perhaps not even openly carrying weapons at all, actually appearing friendly and non-threatening at first to lull their intended victims.
 
The distribution of arms is going to vary greatly depending on the neighborhood. In my neighborhood most everyone will be fine when it comes to defense. Probably some neighborhoods around NYC/Chicago/LA/Seattle aren't.

We all love to talk guns during a disaster, but the big things are food, water, shelter, clothing, meds and other basic household goods.
 
I forgot where I read this but it went something along the lines of:
"My survival kit consists of a rifle and a map of all the other people with survival kits" :p
 
I have friends and relatives who claim if the SHTF they are coming to my house.

Most relatives would be welcome but some need to thinned out of the herd and their bad gene element eliminated from the family line. Friends with desirable skills would be welcome. As for arming neighbors, if I don't know them very well not happening. Otherwise I might find my own gun turned on me.

SKS's and Mosin's make wonderful barter items if you trust those whom you are bartering with...

As for the liberals and parasites in society, same as with the bad genes in the family, the herd needs to be thinned...
 
i only have one neighbor !!!! i dont see them much , but when i do they are cool !!!! his wife can cook so she can come cook with my wife,,,, he builds houses so he can help fortify my house ......... if he cant shoot his own guns then he aint shootin my guns !!!!! not completely ready for a shtf event , but the army tough me to survive in the harshest conditions....... my family and i will be fine !!!!!! i thank the army infantry training , but good old common sense helps too !!!!!!!!
 
Pretty much, most of my neighborhood has been involved in an ever increasing arms race for the past 10 years. I like handguns, my neighbors to the left and right of me (And I am pretty sure all but one other house in the "hood") are hunters, the guy directly across from me is ex military and has everything from AR's to a (Not Barrett) .50 rifle....

I am not friends with any of these people, but after 10 years you see who is wearing orange in November, we live adjacent to a large DOT owned pit/range/drill area that most of us shoot at.

My neighborhood also knows I am a FF/EMT, amateur tinkerer and generally capable man so I get folks asking me questions now and again. I like to know my neighbors, who they are and assess what threats if any they provide to me and my family. I also like to know what assets they could provide to me and my family in a time of need.

It is good to be a good neighbor, I think our world is lacking some of that.
 
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Last Sept., I was in my office in the house one night about 2 a.m. By brother was over and we were shooting the breeze and looking online at some modifications he was going to make to his car. All of a sudden, my house started shaking and it sounded like an earthquake was taking place. Last just a few seconds. I grabbed a pistol, grabbed another and shoved it into his hands, and we both ran out the front door to see if we could determine what the hell was going on. As we got down to the driveway past my privacy fence, I saw my west-side neighbor exiting his front door with a 12-gauge autoloader. We met on the sidewalk between our homes. #30 seconds later neighbors from around the block come speeding up in an SUV, tell us they are chasing some guys who tried to steal a car on their street, did we see them. No but one of them ran across my roof. SUV neighbor calls cops who come out, search yard.
Verdict: Neighbor to the west can borrow guns. Neighbor to the east, who did not even come out of the house, can pound sand. The other neighbors, verdict is still out, except the three hot sisters who live two houses down. I think I can work out some barter system with them ... :)
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So you grabbed guns because maybe an earthquake was happening? That's....logical.

Or was it that somehow, you neighbor also heard someone running over your roof?

There's just a whole lot here that doesn't exactly make sense.
 
Everybody who has posted is going on the assumption they will be home when the emergency situation occurs. Most of us spend a fair amount of time away from our homes, often miles from our homes. Although some of us *cough*, keep firearms and supplies in our vehicles I expect most of our supplies are kept at home.

In the scenario where transportation is severely curtailed those of us at home may encounter folks who were prepared at home but are now on foot. Would you be willing to arm these folks...would you like to be armed if you ended up being one of these folks? If so...how would you tell?

That guy you turned away at gun point with words of disdain for his lack of preparedness being caught unarmed and untrained might be a grunt with 3 tours of combat that returned last week. He'd be pretty handy to have as a friend in troubled times.

P.S. On 'earthquake' comment. I think the post about the earthquake was referring to the effect of somebody running over his roof. His actions were a response to the running over the roof...the 'earthquake' was merely his way of conveying how loud and startling the event was.
 
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