Onward Allusion
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I had a feeling that the other thread was gonna be closed! Hahaha
Had to go to the club kind late 'cause they frown on shoot stuff other than targets.
A few different firearms were used for the tests, but the primary gun was a Taurus M327 2" SS snub chambered in 327 Federal Mag. The cartridges tested were:
- 32 S&W (short)
- 32 ACP
- 32 S&W Long)
- 32 H&R Mag
- 327 Fed Mag
Yeah, kinda cool that one gun can fire 5 different cartridges.
The main test was not too scientific and consisted of shooting 2 rounds of each caliber into a stack of 2"x4"'s. I had a total of four 2x4's. It turns out, I only needed 3 (at most). As a point of reference, old school ammo effectiveness testing consisted of 7/8" pine boards. These 2x4's are slightly more dense than the old school pine boards.
Results . . .
32 S&W - 2 rounds did not go through the 1st 2x4 - no real surprise here. It went about 1.5" into the wood.
32 ACP - 2 rounds also did not go through the 1st 2x4 - again, not too surprised. The 2 rounds went about the same distance into the lumber.
32 S&W Long - same results as the 1st two cartridges. It did fully crack open the back of the 1st 2x4, though. So, slightly "better" than 32 S&W (short) and 32 ACP (from a revolver chambered in 327 Fed Mag).
32 H&R Mag - Um... Went through the 1st 2x4 and dented the 2nd. Kind of surprised here!
327 Fed Mag - 1 went through the 1st and lodged in the very back of the 2nd. The second bullet lodged about 1/4 inch in the 3rd 2x4.
Out of two shots from FIVE different calibers, only ONE of the 10 bullets went through more than two 2x4's! I wished I had my 357 with me but I was wearing my 9mm today.
For grins, I tested a few other guns chambered in 32.
- Iver Johnson Top Break 3" 32S&W (perfect bore - no pits) - 5 shots, 3 went all the way through the first, 2 protruding from the back of the first. BTW, this is the gun in my center console.
- H&R American Double Action 2.5" 32S&W Long (first gun - good frosted bore)- 6 shots, all went through the 1st and lodged about 1/4" in the 2nd.
- H&R American Double Action 2.5" 32S&W Long (second gun) - a few pits in bore) - 6 shots, none went through the first.
- H&R Bicycle 2" 32S&W (fully restored piece with mint bore) - all 5 went through the 1st.
- Kel Tec P32 - All 8 shots went through the 1st and lodged 1/4" in the 2nd.
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For more grins, I tested a couple chambered in 22LR - CCI Hi Vel 40 Gr.
- Taurus 94, 2" 22LR - 9-shot - A few went through the 1st & some lodged in 2nd abut 1/4 inch in 2nd.
- S&W Airlite 22LR, 1.875" - 8-shot - Same as above...
I then loaded up the 22's with "modified" Stingers - Flattened bullet like a WC. Both guns blew through the 1st and lodged about 1/2" in the second. I suspect it had something to do with the 1st piece being pulverized by the first few rounds.
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Conclusions?
* 1st - shoot the correct ammo out of a gun. Even though the M327 could fire 5
cartridges, it was not made for 32 S&W/L or 32 ACP.
* 32 caliber is a weak caliber, even as a 327 Fed Mag.
* Handgun calibers are weak calibers in general.
* Good bores drive bullets better than pitted bores. (Duh)
* 22LR from a snub pretty much equals the power of 32 S&W.
* Modified 22LR's from a snub exceeds the damaged of 32 S&W, 32 S&WL, & 32 ACP.
* Carry whatever you want because it's your life. Those who carry smaller calibers have their own reasons. People who call those who carry small calibers names or threaten with bodily harm...well, what can I say...
Personally, I have many other options. Trust me, I probably have more guns that most of you. I carry what I want for my own reason. My primary carry is a 608 with a lopped off barrel. It's a 357. I carry ammo that throws out about 650 ft lbs a piece from this. I hope this meets with all y'all's approval.
My other carry pieces are 357's or 9mm's. My backup is a 380 or 22 Mag. My gun in my center console is an old 32 S&W. Why? Because if it gets stolen, it'd be a bear to get ammo for it.
Posted a few pics too but there were way too many...
Had to go to the club kind late 'cause they frown on shoot stuff other than targets.
A few different firearms were used for the tests, but the primary gun was a Taurus M327 2" SS snub chambered in 327 Federal Mag. The cartridges tested were:
- 32 S&W (short)
- 32 ACP
- 32 S&W Long)
- 32 H&R Mag
- 327 Fed Mag
Yeah, kinda cool that one gun can fire 5 different cartridges.
The main test was not too scientific and consisted of shooting 2 rounds of each caliber into a stack of 2"x4"'s. I had a total of four 2x4's. It turns out, I only needed 3 (at most). As a point of reference, old school ammo effectiveness testing consisted of 7/8" pine boards. These 2x4's are slightly more dense than the old school pine boards.
Results . . .
32 S&W - 2 rounds did not go through the 1st 2x4 - no real surprise here. It went about 1.5" into the wood.
32 ACP - 2 rounds also did not go through the 1st 2x4 - again, not too surprised. The 2 rounds went about the same distance into the lumber.
32 S&W Long - same results as the 1st two cartridges. It did fully crack open the back of the 1st 2x4, though. So, slightly "better" than 32 S&W (short) and 32 ACP (from a revolver chambered in 327 Fed Mag).
32 H&R Mag - Um... Went through the 1st 2x4 and dented the 2nd. Kind of surprised here!
327 Fed Mag - 1 went through the 1st and lodged in the very back of the 2nd. The second bullet lodged about 1/4 inch in the 3rd 2x4.
Out of two shots from FIVE different calibers, only ONE of the 10 bullets went through more than two 2x4's! I wished I had my 357 with me but I was wearing my 9mm today.
For grins, I tested a few other guns chambered in 32.
- Iver Johnson Top Break 3" 32S&W (perfect bore - no pits) - 5 shots, 3 went all the way through the first, 2 protruding from the back of the first. BTW, this is the gun in my center console.
- H&R American Double Action 2.5" 32S&W Long (first gun - good frosted bore)- 6 shots, all went through the 1st and lodged about 1/4" in the 2nd.
- H&R American Double Action 2.5" 32S&W Long (second gun) - a few pits in bore) - 6 shots, none went through the first.
- H&R Bicycle 2" 32S&W (fully restored piece with mint bore) - all 5 went through the 1st.
- Kel Tec P32 - All 8 shots went through the 1st and lodged 1/4" in the 2nd.
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For more grins, I tested a couple chambered in 22LR - CCI Hi Vel 40 Gr.
- Taurus 94, 2" 22LR - 9-shot - A few went through the 1st & some lodged in 2nd abut 1/4 inch in 2nd.
- S&W Airlite 22LR, 1.875" - 8-shot - Same as above...
I then loaded up the 22's with "modified" Stingers - Flattened bullet like a WC. Both guns blew through the 1st and lodged about 1/2" in the second. I suspect it had something to do with the 1st piece being pulverized by the first few rounds.
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Conclusions?
* 1st - shoot the correct ammo out of a gun. Even though the M327 could fire 5
cartridges, it was not made for 32 S&W/L or 32 ACP.
* 32 caliber is a weak caliber, even as a 327 Fed Mag.
* Handgun calibers are weak calibers in general.
* Good bores drive bullets better than pitted bores. (Duh)
* 22LR from a snub pretty much equals the power of 32 S&W.
* Modified 22LR's from a snub exceeds the damaged of 32 S&W, 32 S&WL, & 32 ACP.
* Carry whatever you want because it's your life. Those who carry smaller calibers have their own reasons. People who call those who carry small calibers names or threaten with bodily harm...well, what can I say...
Personally, I have many other options. Trust me, I probably have more guns that most of you. I carry what I want for my own reason. My primary carry is a 608 with a lopped off barrel. It's a 357. I carry ammo that throws out about 650 ft lbs a piece from this. I hope this meets with all y'all's approval.
My other carry pieces are 357's or 9mm's. My backup is a 380 or 22 Mag. My gun in my center console is an old 32 S&W. Why? Because if it gets stolen, it'd be a bear to get ammo for it.
Posted a few pics too but there were way too many...