ATF now proposes you notify your fire department regarding your powder inventory
- Thread starter reedman
- Start date
- Status
BIZERKO666
Member
My powder identifies as "fertilizer" it's for my freedom seeds.
berettaprofessor
Member
ATfF needs to define "explosive."
higgite
Member
- Joined
- Dec 17, 2009
- Messages
- 2,087
They do define explosives.
From ATF website: https://www.atf.gov/explosives
“Explosives are any chemical compound, mixture, or device, the primary or common purpose of which is to function by explosion. The term includes, but is not limited to, black powder, pellet powder, initiating explosives, ammonium nitrate fuel oil (ANFO) mixtures, safety fuses, squibs, mixed binary explosives, and igniters. Explosives are also present in items such as automotive air bag inflators, special industrial tools, fire extinguishers, some pest control devices, some model rocket engines, fireworks, and special effects in the entertainment industry.”
There's a lot of dramatics in the OP's video.
That guy is getting money for clickbait nonsense.
Smokeless powder and less than 50 pounds of black powder is exempt from federal explosive storage regulations.
More than 50 pounds of BP and you will need an explosives license and follow storage regulations.
This is for people that have applied for an explosive license through the atf.
The FD had to inspect the storage area one time at the beginning of the application.
They changed it to once a year.
Smokeless powder and less than 50 pounds of black powder is exempt from federal explosive storage regulations.
More than 50 pounds of BP and you will need an explosives license and follow storage regulations.
This is for people that have applied for an explosive license through the atf.
The FD had to inspect the storage area one time at the beginning of the application.
They changed it to once a year.
How is it triggered?
Yes, but primers are considered explosives.
This nonsense popped up on another forum Why do people get news from You Tube
Smokeless powder is not listed as explosive.
Some States do require you notify the FD if more than 5 pounds of powder
It's so nice that the ATF opens things up for comments! They do what the want anyway.
I have 5 gals of gas in my shed!
Smokeless powder is not listed as explosive.
Some States do require you notify the FD if more than 5 pounds of powder
It's so nice that the ATF opens things up for comments! They do what the want anyway.
I have 5 gals of gas in my shed!
berettaprofessor
Member
Probably by the odor of feces. I know that having a #2 accident would likely be my first response to a fire in my reloading area.
Live in fear of the bomb squad!
Government employees are no longer promoted based on merit. Instead you get clueless clowns responsible for things such as "detonating" explosives. This is a real life example when the Local Keystone Cops come to demill your stash:
More aid for LAPD firework victims
Los Angeles Times · 9 Feb 2022
City officials on Tuesday laid out $5 million in spending to stabilize, rebuild and provide ongoing assistance to the former and current residents of a South Los Angeles block that was blown up in a failed fireworks detonation by the LAPD bomb squad last year. That total includes $1,163,000 in LAPD funding already allocated to the recovery. It also includes $3,837,000 to be allocated this fiscal year, including $650,000 in reimbursements to Councilman Curren Price’s district office, which has been working on the recovery since the June 30 explosion in the 700 block of East 27th Street. More than $1 million would go toward the continued housing of displaced residents through June, while $1,175,000 would go toward continued repairs to damaged properties and $948,000 toward the operation of a neighborhood recovery center. The $5 million in costs were laid out in a report by the chief legislative analyst, which was submitted to and accepted without comment by the City Council’s economic development committee on Tuesday. The report said the funding could be drawn from the city’s reserve fund, or from funding budgeted in fiscal 2021-22 for “extraordinary liability” costs. The total cost of the blast to the city remains unclear. The $5 million does not include payments being made from the city’s general fund to settle monetary claims brought by residents and local businesses, nearly 200 of which have been filed with the city.
The blast occurred after the LAPD seized a stash of illegal fireworks at a home on the street and then miscalculated its explosive power before detonating it in a blast containment vehicle destroying that vehicle and nearly 40 others, damaging 35 properties and injuring 17 people. Two elderly residents of the block died in the following days, which family members have linked to the explosion and the stress and disruption it caused. Officials have said the residents died from other causes.
Government employees are no longer promoted based on merit. Instead you get clueless clowns responsible for things such as "detonating" explosives. This is a real life example when the Local Keystone Cops come to demill your stash:
More aid for LAPD firework victims
Los Angeles Times · 9 Feb 2022
City officials on Tuesday laid out $5 million in spending to stabilize, rebuild and provide ongoing assistance to the former and current residents of a South Los Angeles block that was blown up in a failed fireworks detonation by the LAPD bomb squad last year. That total includes $1,163,000 in LAPD funding already allocated to the recovery. It also includes $3,837,000 to be allocated this fiscal year, including $650,000 in reimbursements to Councilman Curren Price’s district office, which has been working on the recovery since the June 30 explosion in the 700 block of East 27th Street. More than $1 million would go toward the continued housing of displaced residents through June, while $1,175,000 would go toward continued repairs to damaged properties and $948,000 toward the operation of a neighborhood recovery center. The $5 million in costs were laid out in a report by the chief legislative analyst, which was submitted to and accepted without comment by the City Council’s economic development committee on Tuesday. The report said the funding could be drawn from the city’s reserve fund, or from funding budgeted in fiscal 2021-22 for “extraordinary liability” costs. The total cost of the blast to the city remains unclear. The $5 million does not include payments being made from the city’s general fund to settle monetary claims brought by residents and local businesses, nearly 200 of which have been filed with the city.
The blast occurred after the LAPD seized a stash of illegal fireworks at a home on the street and then miscalculated its explosive power before detonating it in a blast containment vehicle destroying that vehicle and nearly 40 others, damaging 35 properties and injuring 17 people. Two elderly residents of the block died in the following days, which family members have linked to the explosion and the stress and disruption it caused. Officials have said the residents died from other causes.
n2omike
Member
- Joined
- Feb 19, 2021
- Messages
- 469
The VFD here is useless. They are NOT going into a burning structure to try and save anyone. lolActually, as a retired firefighter I can see the wisdom in that, as well as letting them know if you have large quantities of gasoline or other flammables.
If nothing else I would spell it out for them if I ever called them.
I may just have to make a sign for my powder cabinet.
I watched a house burn down in the neighborhood about a year ago where a lady died.
Fire was mainly on one side of the home. They pulled up with a truck having a spray turret on top. They pulled up right across from where the fire was... and did NOTHING. I timed it, and it took them 10 minutes to get ANY water on the fire. All they did was spray water on the outside of the house as it burned. They didn't break any windows to spray inside. They didn't check for anyone... Nothing. One guy seemed to be more interested in teaching a girl how to work the hose than anything. Made me VERY aware that if my home catches on fire, it's up to ME to do anything about it!
They all like to parade around like heroes, but it's a façade. The saying "All hat and no cowboy" comes to mind. lol
What does this have to do with the original subject of this thread???
I could have 1000 lb of flammables in my home, and none of the local VFD are going to get hurt because they are going to be as far away as the hose will reach spraying water on the roof and siding. lol
I mean, I was truly SHOOK at just how pitiful their response was. It was BAD.
What makes this even worse is WHO put the video out. It was the king Chicken Little from Guns and Gadgets. He is one of the worst about hyping and sensationalizing everything. He overreacts in every video he makes. It is nothing but click bait since these guys get money for every time someone watched their videos.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
