ATF says 'no" to pot users...bluntly

[Neverwinter]

Name one other constitutionally enumerated right that you can lose for smoking ANYTHING.

4th Amendment - Asset forfeitures

What I don't see is how Fed. Law, 18 USC 922 (g)(3), ("an unlawful user of [...] any controlled substance...") matches the profile of a citizen who legally under their state law uses medical marijuana.

It's still illegal under federal law.

 

[TriTone]

Shut yur durty keyboard mouth Midwest! lol

 

[MyGreenGuns]

I'd imagine if you had a medical card, you'd be a "lawful" user.

Whats really sad is this whole thing was probably brought to light by a "lawful" user asking questions at his LGS.

 

[FruitCake]

I don't see why goodp people who have permits can't smoke marijuana yet its okay for the ATF to let hundreds of fireearms go south into mexico. I don't know it doesn't seem fair:banghead:

 

[gavelwacker]

As I see it, even if your State allowed the use of Marijuana, Federal Law does not, therefore, it would still be considered Illegal under FEDERAL law.
Not saying that I agree / disagree either way, just playing Devil's Advocate....

 

[natman]

Right from the 4473:

e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana, or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled
substance?

And since from a FEDERAL point of view, there are no lawful users......

 

[cbrgator]

gavelwacker and natman have it right.

Whether you agree or disagree with the current state of things, Marijuana is an illicit drug under federal law. It is of no consequence that some states permit its use for medicinal purposes.

Federal law provides for no exceptions to Marijuana's illegality. Thus, from a federal perspective, all users of Marijuana are unlawful users.

States cannot force the federal government to change its laws by enacting inconsistent or opposite legislation. Medicinal users under California law cannot use said California law to circumvent contrary federal law.

You may disagree with the illegality of Marijuana, but this is just how things stand today. Legalization of Marijuana is a debate for another day on another forum.

 

[publius]

We already had this argument at the Supreme Court.

[June 6, 2005]

Justice Thomas, dissenting.

Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything–and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.

 

[natman]

We already had this argument at the Supreme Court.

Justice Thomas makes an excellent point. But since it's an excellent dissenting point, I'll guess marijuana is still illegal at the Federal level.

 

[Colonel]

I guess they just support selling to the drug cartels, not users.

As Rahm Emanuel always said, "Never miss an opportunity to exploit (or create) a crisis!"

 

[fatcat4620]

I can see it now. Armed robberies where the perp refused the money in the register but took all the popcorn and snowballs in the store.

 

[Baba Louie]

...and yet...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/28/national/main20112623.shtml?tag=nl.e875

For the past three decades, Uncle Sam has been providing a handful of patients with some of the highest grade marijuana around. The program grew out of a 1976 court settlement that created the country's first legal pot smoker.

Just thought it interesting. On this hand, "Baddddd Americans. Loss of a right for sure." On the other hand, "I feel your pain, here take a toke. Good stuff huh?"

We make the rules. Or, we make the rulers.

 

[Dave Workman]

Boy, howdy.

I guess this thread sort of re-defines why they call this place "The HIGH Road" eh?

 

[mortablunt]

I don't smoke weed. Roommate does. I hate the smell. It gives me a headache and makes my cough worse. Fortunately, the pot smokers generally seem to be the sort of people who would not want a gun much less know how to use it.

 

[Art Eatman]

Enough wandering and poly-ticking...