Australian gun control, failing miserably as usual

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/06/17/australia.shooting.ap/index.html

MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) -- A gunman opened fire on a downtown street during the morning rush hour Monday in Australia's second largest city, killing one man and critically wounding two other people, police said.

The suspect fled and police launched a manhunt in the southern city of Melbourne, closing several streets and advising people to stay indoors as tactical officers armed with shotguns fanned out and helicopters joined the search overhead.

Police said the shooting did not appear to be a random act, and that it was believed a woman who was one of the victims knew the gunman.

The other two victims -- including the one who died -- were male bystanders who came to the aid of the woman during an altercation with a man who pulled out a gun, witnesses said.

"A girl came out of a building over the road, she was screaming and a guy had her by the hair," Ross Murchie told Australian Broadcasting Corp.

"She tried to grab hold of a taxi that was going by and the couple of bystanders went over to ask what was happening," Murchie said. "He let go of her hair, pulled out a gun and shot them all."

Insp. Steve Martin said the woman and one of the men who went to assist were rushed to hospital in critical condition with gunshot wounds to their chests. The third victim died at the scene, he said.

The shooting occurred on the corner of Flinders Lane and William Streets in central Melbourne around 8 a.m. Monday (2200 GMT Sunday), sending hundreds of frightened commuters fleeing.
 
i told you the gun control worked, see!? the cops were armed with taz... er wait... i guess i'm wrong... maybe it doesn't work so well. :( poor me

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Took less than 4 hours for the anti gun comments to start. The leader of the greens party called for a complete ban on firearms, and the PM has indicated he's in favor of it but it's a state responsibility (funny, seeing as he forced the states to adopt the current laws).
I really feel like I'm seeing the downhill slide of this country. :(

On the slightly more positive side, the two blokes who were shot went to aid the woman, so I guess there's still something worthwhile here.

EDIT: latest I've heard is it's a domestic related incident. Still, better to wait for all the facts.
 
wait it gets better the whole article was not posted this is the best part of the whole article

Justice Minister David Johnston said Australian firearms laws already were very tight and that it was likely the gun used in Monday's shooting was obtained illegally.

"It is very, very, difficult for a law-abiding citizen to obtain a handgun," Johnston said, adding: "If someone wants to purchase a concealable weapon on the black market they will probably be successful."

good thing they made it so difficult for law abiding citizens to purchase a gun legally. and easy for criminals to purchase a weapon. hats off to the goverment of Australia
 
:rolleyes:Double ban the guns! Triple ban the guns! Quadruple ban the guns!:rolleyes:

I really feel sorry for the people in Australia. I met a guy from down under a few weeks ago, when he saw a .22 I was selling he looked like he was going to cry. He wanted that .22 so bad but he said his government won't let him own one:(.
 
From http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,21923515-2,00.html

"A GOOD Samaritan shot dead after going to help a woman in distress in Melbourne this morning was a 43-year-old solicitor, police said.

The unnamed lawyer was one of two men who went to the aid of the woman who was struggling with a man near a taxi on the corner of Flinders Lane and William Street, in Melbourne's CBD, about 8.15am (AEST)."

Comments on the story are interesting - plenty of antis but a lot of common sense also.
 
We're from the government, and we're here to help.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0627/p06s02-woap.html

Troops are to be stationed across the Outback as the Australian government launches a massive crackdown on the alcoholism, sexual assault, and social dysfunction that a recent federal investigation alleges are tearing apart Aboriginal communities.

Shocked by the findings of an official report released earlier this month, the government of Prime Minister John Howard has decided to ban alcohol, confiscate pornography, and make welfare payments conditional on good parenting in more than 60 isolated Aboriginal townships.
 
>>Double ban the guns! Triple ban the guns! Quadruple ban the guns!

I propose a double secret ban....
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Stationing troops in the outback to stop the poor aborigines from doing
naughty things to each other ?!

lol.

As if they give a damn about the natives.

No more Booze or Porn !!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

That's sure to help. And if not, well... we are going to STATION TROOPS
around to see that you don't do these naughty naughty things.
Australia has gone to the dogs long ago, I'm afraid.
Howard is completely unified fully realized idiot of the highest order.
 
the stationing troops bit sounds suspiciously like the slide towards a police state... particularly given the long-term nature of such a deployment and the siezure of alcohol and porn.

Maybe next week they will sieze what remains of free newspapers and bibles. that's the kind of road they are walking down
 
I am an Australian gun owner myself, what Elza said was untrue, some guns are legal here but it takes a while to get them. Don't get me wrong though, I am a huge supporter for gun rights of law-abiding citizens and I believe that Australia should have a clause on its constitution that is similar to the Second Amendment of the US constitution, but sadly, that is not the case. This murder in Melbourne is why Australia needs a concealed carry licensing system. If the bystander who got fatally shot had a handgun to defend himself, then he wouldn't have died.
 
Very true- up until the mid 80's quite a lot of people were able to carry handguns for protection as part of their work; bank managers, chemists and such. It really wasn't that long ago and it wasn't long after they were made to stop that it seems the massacres which culminated in Port Arthur and the current laws began.
I am not opposed to a license system as such in the same way that I am not necessarily opposed to a car license, and I do believe that a conceal carry law and "castle law" as found in some US states would be a good thing in here.
In short "Aurstralia needs to HTFU!"
 
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Aussie shooter- trouble is there aren't that many real alternatives- Labor is as bad as the Coalition parties-may be a light at the end of the tunnel if Prime Miniature Coward is voted out, until then might be best to vote for The Shooter's Pary if they have someone standing in your state (I would have added Liberal Democratic Party to that but they seem to have become a non-starter)
Cheers.
 
If you need Jesse Jackson or Michael Pfleger to hold rallies and vigils down there, folks, don't hesitate to ask.

We'd be happy to send them your way for awhile.
 
Watching the Aussies and the Canadians following the Brits model of gun control reminds me of the diehard football fan who lost 50 bucks on the game Saturday and another 25 on the replay Sunday!:p Some people (govts) just won't learn.:banghead:
 
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