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So after 6(ish) years, wife finally gave me the go ahead for a reloader. After asking around on here, and doing lots of research, I've decided on http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=814175
I'll be loading .38, .308 and eventually some .30-.30. I already have some electronic calipers, so I don't need those.
Now here's my question.
Could somebody please tell me what I'll need? I don't want to do an order, and find out I'm missing something. I figured asking the pros here would save me from that PITA.
I'm not looking for all the little knick knacks and doo dads, just the basics, maybe a couple things that just make life better, and the whole process much faster. There is one thing I saw that I did like for speed. It's a disk that mounts to the turret with the powder hopper (don't know what it's really called) so I don't have to measure out the powder every time. I do know that I should be checking length and powder every few rounds, just to make sure nothing has moved and all that. I'll be getting all the brass, powders, boolits and primers locally.
So, what do yall say? Could you help me out? Thanks so much gentlemen.
 
if you didnt already order it, I would recommend the RCBS Rockchucker supreme kit. Can usually be found for $300 or under. It'll have most of the stuff you will need- dies, and a digital scale(optional convenience). IMHO you dont need a turret or progressive for rifle loads. I think most would actually prefer single stage. I know i would. Once you get into it, the speed of relaoding rifle rounds isnt that cool. Its more fun actually doing the loading and prepping in your own stages. AND way better to learn!!! Unless you go out with your rifles and shoot 1000 rounds each time...... A Rockchucker can do everything you will ever need just fine.
 
digital scale(optional convenience)
I have one and I don't feel it would be an option anymore. WAY faster than using a beam scale. Cost (I don't think) is much diff now.

OH! Treat your wife real nice now ya hear.
 
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The first thing that I would buy is a reloading manuel and read it, after that you will have a better understanding of the process and what you will need. As for a powder scale I've heard mixed reviews on electronic scales, but different strokes for different folks. I started out with a rockchucker and I have been using it for close to 40 years and it still works great and I load both rifle and pistol on it. Enjoy your new found hobby.
 
2nd on the reloading manual.I like the Lyman,but there are several that can help you.In addition to the manual you will need; a press,die set,shell holder,powder scale,powder funnel,powder trickler,loading block,case lube and a pad,primer pocket brush,a case trimmer(sooner or later).A powder meausure would be nice,but not a have to have item.I think that will get you started.A kit will usually save you money and has most of what you need.The RCBS that was suggested would be nice.Hope this helps, Lightman
 
Without question, the best thing you can get is at least 2 manuals.
That more than anything (other than your brain) is going to help you SAFELY reload.

2 manuals are NOT optional!

The press you're looking at is a good one.

Then you'll need dies, primers, powder & bullets, a
scale to weigh the powder, a powder measure like this one,
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=348753

You'll also want a loading block
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=110254

For rifle you need to trim the cases (you need both listed below)
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=271467
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=476992

Can't think of anything else at the moment
 
Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned this. I know the basics, like manuals (don't feel like blowing my face off) reloading blocks, trimmers, dies and shell holders.
I just don't know specific stuff needed to make this particular press work that it doesn't come with in the box.
Thanks though gentlemen.
 
These are some of the things you will need to get the most from the classic turret.

Safety prime ( large and small )
powder measure
double disk kit
pro auto disk riser
rifle charging die
trimmer for rifle cases
case lube for rifle cases
scale
calipers

Check out the kit at www.kempfgunshop.com.
 
I owned a RockChucker. I was very happy to sell it.
Read a couple of manuals and read the stickies.
+1 Lee dies
You asked what you NEED.
You need a way to meter the powder. We have over a hundred years of metering smokeless gun powder using a dipper, just like Lee sells. You can load for years with just the dippers and the Lee loads that are listed on the instruction sheet that comes with the dies. That is what you NEED.
Most people want to automate the powder charging by use of a powder measure. In this case, you have to also have a balance to measure the powder charge to +/- 0.1gn.
I use the Lee Pro Auto-Disk, a Hornady L-N-L case-activated powder measure, and a Dillon case-activated powder measure. In your case, the Lee would be a first choice.
Back in the late 70s when the first affordable electronic balances came out, I retired my beam balance and bought an Ainsworth. I still have it and it still works. Whatever balance you buy should cost $70-150. Anything less will be frustrating or delicate or useless. Anything more will be a waste of money.
For bottleneck cases, buy the Lee case trimmers. For straightwall cases, you will never need to trim.
It isn't needed, buy a 6" caliper is always nice to have for measuring case length and COL.
Start out simple and buy additional tools as you need them and know what you want.
 
Another vote for the Lyman Manual. Great info (even if you have other manuals).

Another vote for Kempf Gun Shop. I ordered a Lee Classic Turret kit from them. They are very helpful and their prices are good. Drop them an email or give them a call. I emailed them and told them which calibers I wanted to load and they hooked me up with what I need.

Another suggestion is getting extra turrets, so you can leave your dies set up for each caliber you will be loading, just switch turrets. Oh, yeah, it'd be a good idea to order some of Lee's round die holders (one for each caliber). The dies that come in the kits come in a rectangular box. Once you mount them on the turrets (if you intend to keep them on the turrets) the round die holders hold everything together (dies & turrets). Just slap a label on it and you're set.

A few good ideas would also be a bullet puller (manual or collet - i prefer collet), a set of case prep tools (Lyman has a nice kit), tumbler or ultrasonic cleaner. Depending on what your intentions are, you may also consider picking up a Lee Universal Decapping Die. I have an ultrasonic cleaner and prefer to deprime before cleaning cases. Order up some caliber specific boxes to fill up with the ammo you're making.

Good luck.
 
"...RCBS Rockchucker Supreme kit..." Yep. At least having a look will tell you what you need to start. The Lee kit will to, but their warrantee isn't as good as RCBS'.
Buy a copy of The ABC's of Reloading too.
 
Cabelas has the LCT in a kit for $110
It has the press, auto disc powder measure, and safety scale.... I hate the scale and got a digital. It also comes with a deburr tool and trimmer.

It does not come with the primer levers, but they are not necessary, they do make it easier though.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Reloading/Presses-Dies/pc/104792580/c/104761080/sc/104516280/Lee-Deluxe-Turret-Press-Reloading-Kit/740033.uts?WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104761080%3Bcat104516280

That's not the Lee Classic Cast Turret press, you are pointing to the Deluxe Turret Press which is good, but not as sturdy as the Classic Cast Turret press. He wants this kit.
 
Wife didn't give me permission, she just bought one for Christmas for me. Great press. I have all my pistol loads set up on turrets with a powder measure on each one and the rifle dies are set up on individual turrets (I prefer to weigh out loads and hand prime).

Suggestion: When you get the Safety Prime, disassemble it (carefully! I had one spring go flying and took me an hour to find it) and carefully trim all the flash from molding and coat everything with powdered graphite and reassemble. Runs the way it ought to after that. I also ran a soft buffing wheel with jeweler's rough over everything with my dremel. Drops everything down to the last primer without fail.
 
I have the press you have decided on and it is awesome. I started on a single stage that I still use when loading for my bolt guns since I think it is more precise.
If I only was able to have one press it would definitely be the turret simple for the speed. If you are going to do a lot of handgun shooting the turret can be 3-4 times faster once you get a system going. Just take it slow at first.

I recommend removing the indexing rod for your first few batches and using the press as a single stage until you completely master and understand each process. That may keep you from making big mistakes.
 
I wrote this before Obama got elected. Prices have changed.
My shpeal:

I got the RCBS rockchucker reloading kit when I started reloading in 1999:
1) Rockchucker press .. don't use it anymore, I now use Forster and Bonanza Co-ax presses with shellholer jaw housing I redesigned and made on my mill, and an RCBS Partner press.
2) "Speer 12" reloading manual... loads in it are a joke, I find my start load with Quickload software.
3) Bottle of glycerin for lube... don't use it any more, now use Redding imperial die wax.
4) Pad for applying glycerin... don't use it, I use my fingers.
5) Brush for lubing inside of case neck.. don't use it any more, I remove the expander ball so I don't need inside lube.
6) Loading tray made of plastic... don't use it. I seat bullets as soon as I charge the case, with a second press.
7) Wire brush for cleaning primer pockets. Don't use it.
8) 5-0-5 scale [Ohaus OEM]... I still use it.
9) Uniflow powder measure.... I still use it.
10) Inside outside neck chamfer [ Wilson OEM] I still use it.
11) case trimmer, don't use it anymore. I now use a Forster case trimmer or RCBS 3 way in the vertical mill
12) Funnel, don't use it, I use a Frankfort Arsenal or MTM funnel.

Other stuff I use not cross referenced to the kit:
1) Wilson Case gauge
2) Sinclair concentricity gauge
3) Lyman Moly coating kit, but with steel BBs and magnetic separation
4) Vibrators, ultra sound, and stainless steel media in a tumbler for cleaning
5) Forster and Lee priming tools
6) Lee Collet neck dies polished in my lathe.
7) Forster FL dies with necks honed out in Forster's Hardinge lathes.
8) Forster seating dies with seater stem polished on my lathe
9) Dial calipers
10) Enco set of pin gauges .0610" to .2500"
11) Enco set of pin gauges .2510" - .5000"
12) Optivisor magnifier headset
13) Dillon Super Swage 600 military crimp remover
14) Lux lamp magnifier
15) Bullets, brass, primers, and powder
16) Berry's bullets plastic ammo boxes
17) 3M Post-its for labeling.
18) Forster headspace go-gauge

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It is best to go to someone's house and watch them handload, and try it there. Other than that, one should either get started as cheap as possible with Lee, or cut to the chase and buy the Forster equipment.

I am thinking that the cheapest is the way to start.
Many people do not take to reloading.
1) Skip cleaning the brass used brass you found lying around.
2) Lube the outside of the case with Redding Imperial die wax.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=519525
$7.79
3) Put the sizer die in the press and screw the press to your work bench.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=807734
$27.99
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=738184
$13.49
4) Take the decapping stem out of the sizer die.
5) Put a shell holder in the press:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=616684
$3.49
6) Put the case in the shell holder in the press and push down on the press handle until the brass goes all the way into the die. Pull up on the handle until the brass comes out.
7) Spin the decapping stem in a drill while you grind off enough of the expander ball, until the expander ball will fit in the sized case mouth without touching.
8) Put the decapping stem back in the die and size the die again so the spent primer pops out.
9)Put the primer in the priming tool:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=556149
$14.99
WOLF LARGE PISTOL PRIMERS - per 1000 in stock at Powder Valley $25.50
put the case in the shell holder.
Put the shell holder in the priming tool.
Put the priming tool in the press.
Seat the primer.
10) Weigh out 40 gr IMR4895 powder
IMR 4895 - 1 LB. in stock at Powder Valley
$19.00
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=712103
$21.99
11) Pour the powder into the case
12) Seat a bullet into the case until the cartridge length is 2.81"
Sierra .308 168 gr. HPBT Match (100)in stock at Powder valley
$27.92
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=128288
$25.99
13) Put the loaded cartridge in a plastic baggie with a post it with these words written, ".308, 2.81", 40 gr IMR4895, Sierra 168 gr HPBT"
14) Go to the range and shoot groups.
15) Return from the range and write up an email range report listing the date, the rifle, the scope, the wind, the rest, the group size, and the load data on the post it.
16) Print the range report and staple it to the targets.
17) File it under "range reports"

I am adding up that it cost you $162.65
 
These are some of the things you will need to get the most from the classic turret.

Safety prime ( large and small )
powder measure
double disk kit
pro auto disk riser
rifle charging die
trimmer for rifle cases
case lube for rifle cases
scale
calipers

Check out the kit at www.kempfgunshop.com.

As stated earlier I use the press you want as well. The only thing I would add to Rusty's list is:

Digital scale (you will get sick of waiting on a beam scale to stop bouncing if you plan on weighing every charge for rifle)

Bullet puller because you WILL make mistakes

Tumbler with media, polish and a media separator.

Champher/debur tool to use after trimming.

A funnel to dump your weighed powder into the case. A bigger kitchen funnel is handy for dumping unused powder out of your powder measure back into the powder can as well.

A good reloading book is essential. The lee book would actually give you some auto disk data for loads for the auto disk.

I can't think of anything else that you really need besides a very sturdy bench to mount your press to. You want something with NO GIVE. I mounted my press to a short 2x6(2x4 is not big enough) and use c clamps to mount it when I need it.
 
Coastie, I bought my LCT from Kempf also. That was in January of 2008. I've loaded thousands for rounds for 45ACP, 380ACP and 357SIG with it with no problems. Adding turrets and leaving the dies set works very well. Worrying about the warranties on pretty much any brand is a waste of time. They all work well and don't have many issues that are costly. In fact, as someone else already attested to, Lee backs their stuff up regardless. After the initial purchase, I've bought most of the extra items I wanted from Midway. I go to the gun shows in FL to pick up powder and primers so I don't have to pay the Haz Mat fee. The $9 entry fee allows me to snoop around.
 
I got my LCT today from Kemph. I'm setup for 9mm, .357, .45acp. I had the 9mm and .45acp dies. So I ordered extra turrets and powder measures. I also have another set of .38 dies and a turret. Add a powder measure and .38 sp and +p can be ran when I want. Change the shell holder and turrent and on to the next caliber.
 
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