Awfully late for fawns

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I'd pass on that small a deer, but the deer where I am are so thick that the limit is TEN doe....10. :confused: So I have a pretty good chance at something bigger. don't know about your area. The yearlings, I don't think stray far from a group at that age, so may give you a good indication where the more adult deer are clustered as well. Of course that doesn't help you secure a mature buck if that's what you want. I prefer doe for meat, and I try not to harvest the really mature buck in my area as he seems to like to push his does into the area where I hunt..., and he really helps to make more deer in the same territory. :D

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Yeah, the fawns that I've seen have been running with a group of 4 doe and another fawn is running with a pair. We have an abundance of deer (we are allowed a total of 6 a year, 2 bucks and 4 doe between archery and gun) in Oklahoma, but even so does it it make it taboo? Is it generally frowned upon?
 
I've taken yearling when I was in college and desperate for meat. One problem, ain't a lot of meat there, but I didn't frown on it when I needed it. I didn't make a lot of money back then and had to supplement my diet with game and fish, which I do now more for sport than necessity. I don't shoot the little ones, would rather shoot a mature doe, or a legal buck. Most of the deer I've taken have been bucks, some fairly nice for where I was hunting. On my other place, I've taken nothing, but bucks, never took a doe. The buck/doe ratio is skewed toward the bucks there, seems to always have been since I bought the place in 1988. It's a 5 deer county, 3 bucks, two doe.

Here, you can only take a doe during bow season or with a special doe permit. I think this has caused the buck/doe ratio to go WAY wonky over the years. You can only get a doe permit if you have 50 or more acres. Few here have that much land, not at 10K per acre. :rolleyes: It's all split up in 10-20 acre tracts. There's a Wildlife Management Association here that gives out doe permits. It was formed specifically BECAUSE there's so many small tracts in the county, hard to manage. But, IMHO, the county should drop the no doe policy during gun season. It's wreaking havoc to the buck/doe ratio. But, these things tend to be controlled by politicians, not game management. :rolleyes:

There is a 13" minimum spread on bucks here, too. That seems to work fairly well as there are some good bucks around here and I've shot a couple of legal bucks already, only been here 5 years. You can also take a spike legally which I did the first year I was here. That was some good meat, too.
 
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so does it it make it taboo? Is it generally frowned upon?
Wow that's tough to say. I mean where I am, hunting deer with dogs is a) forbidden and b) thought to be utterly unsportsmanlike..., yet in other parts of America it's a very common way to take deer. So who can say about a yearling? At the very beginning of the season would you pass on it since you have lots of time to fill your freezer? Then what about the very last day of the season, and you haven't bagged one yet? Do things change if you have some venison in the freezer from this year, but the freezer isn't full and it's the last day? Does the calendar matter at all, since it would not to another, non-human predator? Do you view it as God/Karma/Fate put X deer of whatever description in front of you, and you don't pass up on shots when going for meat if ever?

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I personaly don't like the idea of people killing the small deer ,mainly because they are killing a deer that has just a few pounds of meat on it..If your gonna kill an anterless deer there are plenty of mature doe to choose from..I personaly will shoot a scrub over a doe,unless I'm pretty sure it's dry..Most scrubs are still gonna be as big as a good doe,and maybe I don't have a refined pallet,but I can't tell the difference in taste over a doe..I know some people that won't even eat a buck,but it don't bother me.
 
Wow that's tough to say. I mean where I am, hunting deer with dogs is a) forbidden and b) thought to be utterly unsportsmanlike..., yet in other parts of America it's a very common way to take deer. So who can say about a yearling? At the very beginning of the season would you pass on it since you have lots of time to fill your freezer? Then what about the very last day of the season, and you haven't bagged one yet? Do things change if you have some venison in the freezer from this year, but the freezer isn't full and it's the last day? Does the calendar matter at all, since it would not to another, non-human predator? Do you view it as God/Karma/Fate put X deer of whatever description in front of you, and you don't pass up on shots when going for meat if ever?

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The ONLY a reason I would shoot one is for the tenderness of it. But, I don't HAVE to take a tender deer as you can create tenderness in the kitchen. Slow and low will always make the meat tender. I was just curious as to what a community thinks about this topic. I don't think I could actually bring myself to pulling the trigger on a spotted deer....
 
The ONLY a reason I would shoot one is for the tenderness of it. But, I don't HAVE to take a tender deer as you can create tenderness in the kitchen. Slow and low will always make the meat tender. I was just curious as to what a community thinks about this topic. I don't think I could actually bring myself to pulling the trigger on a spotted deer....
Tenderness is not an issue for us,we don't care for deer roast,and the only steaks we eat are either baked,or pounded .We slow cook a little for barbecues in the crock pot,but mostly we eat ground meat in chili,and other dishes that normaly call for ground beef..When I was a kid my Mother canned a lot of deer,but my wife won't fool with it..Mother put up with a lot from Daddy and us boys.We always skinned and quartered deer,but Mom did most of the rest .I HATE working up deer.We usulaly use a couple for ourselves,and then I start giving it away.
 
I guess I have no qualms about busting a Bambi. When they say to pick a spot when shooting a bow, I take it literally. It gives you a place to aim and they are so small that it is more of a challenge. Shucks, my wife can hit a 250# buck.
 
As far as tenderness of the meat, that's what crock pots are for. I keep rump roasts, back straps, and tender loins and grind everything else. No reason for me to kill a yearling just for "tender meat". Not enough fat on ANY venison to grill or smoke it. That's what pigs are for. :D As far as meat in my freezer, give me wild pork ANY day over venison. Helps make venison sausage edible, too. :D
 
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I've been out almost every other day this week. I'm seeing fawns with spots with pretty much every doe I encounter.
 
is it taboo to shoot a yearling?

IMO the biggest problem is that you have about a 50-50 chance of shooting a button buck. Closer to 100% if the yearling is alone. I hate it when that happens.

Not much meat either, but it sure is tasty!
 
As far as tenderness of the meat, that's what crock pots are for. I keep rump roasts, back straps, and tender loins and grind everything else. No reason for me to kill a yearling just for "tender meat". Not enough fat on ANY venison to grill or smoke it. That's what pigs are for. :D As far as meat in my freezer, give me wild pork ANY day over venison. Helps make venison sausage edible, too. :D
Amen to that!
 
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One of two spotted fawns we have in north Texas going into September.
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Haven't seen a spotted one since the first week in Aug. here, but they are getting very suicidal, I've had a few I've had to brake for, and there are many on the side of the road. Some years ago, an animal activist had a 'letter to the editor' in the local paper here, and I emailed him and asked him if he had ever driven in Wisconsin at dusk, or had attended a WI DNR open meeting. (he claimed the WI DNR managed deer to artificially inflate the population for the benefit of hunters) : He had not. I then told him until he does both to shut the hell up, especially considering he was from CA, and had no stake in the matter.
 
We still have very young spotted fawns here running with their mamas in September. I've honestly never noticed this. Maybe it's because I now live with 'em here in the woods, run my camera 24/7 year around, and notice things I never noticed when I was 25 miles from my property and didn't live there.

There's so many deer here now I'm loath to set my hog trap as I catch deer in it. When the hogs get really thick, I'll set it, but otherwise don't mess with it due to the deer. I caught a spotted fawn in the trap not long ago. I hope it found mama when I let it out.
 
We still have very young spotted fawns here running with their mamas in September. I've honestly never noticed this. Maybe it's because I now live with 'em here in the woods, run my camera 24/7 year around, and notice things I never noticed when I was 25 miles from my property and didn't live there.

There's so many deer here now I'm loath to set my hog trap as I catch deer in it. When the hogs get really thick, I'll set it, but otherwise don't mess with it due to the deer. I caught a spotted fawn in the trap not long ago. I hope it found mama when I let it out.
Unless it had been a few days, momma was probably still pretty close.
 
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