Lets say you are working off an online document (reputable) and are looking over recipes and are going to cook one up.
Now you are putting it in a gun you have never shot before....you know it is safe and all that jazz....you know this is a bit like this other cartridge (that you don't own, but it popular) and are kinda looking at those recipes as well to get an idea on the ball park you are working in. You see these are a little warmer, you figure OK, this is an auto, the other is a manual action, so you guess a little more oomph to get all the metal bits moving, and make the gun cycle.
You work up 5, take it out back (living in the country is great for this) and you run them. After finding all 5 cases, (flinging the empty into a low earth orbit...too much oomph?, and it looked like a bit of work on extraction....again not bad but you see a little mark) you look at them and one case shows a little sign of over pressure....not bad, just a bit of flattening of the primer. You don't want hot rounds as brass is a bit hard to come by, you don't need tons of oomph...so you are looking for a nice soft-middle of the road load.
You decide to back things off a bit.
Good doG this guy is wordy......
Say you are running (off the top of my head) 32 grains of 3031....how far back do you dial things all else being equal, same bullet same primer....bla bla bla.
I worked up 5 going down to 30 grains.....but not sure where to go.
I need to dig up some OLD manuals, but the issue with old manuals is old powders...and I do know that even the "same" powder is not the same as it was in 1960. Hodgen is local to me, in fact right next to one of the first indoor gun ranges in the "KC" area. So I did talk to those folks when I got into reloading years ago.
Now if you want to know what I am loading for and what in....I really did not want to put a bias in there.....
We are loading 30 remington in a Model 8. 30 Remington is in the same ball park as 30-30....and I have been looking at both of those when working up my formulas.
General thoughts on that long and drawn out question.
Now you are putting it in a gun you have never shot before....you know it is safe and all that jazz....you know this is a bit like this other cartridge (that you don't own, but it popular) and are kinda looking at those recipes as well to get an idea on the ball park you are working in. You see these are a little warmer, you figure OK, this is an auto, the other is a manual action, so you guess a little more oomph to get all the metal bits moving, and make the gun cycle.
You work up 5, take it out back (living in the country is great for this) and you run them. After finding all 5 cases, (flinging the empty into a low earth orbit...too much oomph?, and it looked like a bit of work on extraction....again not bad but you see a little mark) you look at them and one case shows a little sign of over pressure....not bad, just a bit of flattening of the primer. You don't want hot rounds as brass is a bit hard to come by, you don't need tons of oomph...so you are looking for a nice soft-middle of the road load.
You decide to back things off a bit.
Good doG this guy is wordy......
Say you are running (off the top of my head) 32 grains of 3031....how far back do you dial things all else being equal, same bullet same primer....bla bla bla.
I worked up 5 going down to 30 grains.....but not sure where to go.
I need to dig up some OLD manuals, but the issue with old manuals is old powders...and I do know that even the "same" powder is not the same as it was in 1960. Hodgen is local to me, in fact right next to one of the first indoor gun ranges in the "KC" area. So I did talk to those folks when I got into reloading years ago.
Now if you want to know what I am loading for and what in....I really did not want to put a bias in there.....
We are loading 30 remington in a Model 8. 30 Remington is in the same ball park as 30-30....and I have been looking at both of those when working up my formulas.
General thoughts on that long and drawn out question.
