Bad AD today..not me. kinda explicit.

[jakemccoy]

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[jakemccoy]

Ed, from your post #43...

This was an accidental discharge. The person made a mistake, hurt himself, and the bullet stopped short of harming anyone else. The only way it could be called negligent is if you are arguing that Glock was negligent in designing a firearm that needed a trigger actuation to disassemble, or maybe that didn't have a loaded chamber indicator.

I guess the original post wasn't hearsay for you back then. You decided, based on the original post, that the man had an accident.

You're all over the place. It would be comical if this topic weren't so serious.

We're not trying the man. We're just discussing a story. We assume the story is true so that we can have an organized discussion.

 

[Flyboy]

For those who want to argue that the discharge was accidental, and didn't constitute negligence, I'd ask this question:

Even if we accept the discharge as an accident, what the hell was his hand doing in front of the muzzle?

 

[jakemccoy]

Flyboy wrote...

Even if we accept the discharge as an accident, what the hell was his hand doing in front of the muzzle?

I guess that was an accident too!...lol

 

[Ed Ames]

Umm.. jake... you do realize that I've been saying the same thing the whole time?

What we know:

It's an accidental discharge. Nobody was harmed except the shooter. With the information we have it could only be known to be negligent if you have facts, like the design of the glock, that are verifiable and you consider them negligent.

Why are you trying to misrepresent my statements? If you feel you must misrepresent them, why are you so bad at misrepresenting them?

I say it was accidental because nobody was trying to get anyone else arrested. Whoever did the shooting is still in the good graces of the victim to the point where the victim will say it was his fault.

What I'm accepting as fact is what the original poster could observe directly and is reporting for himself. No, the whole post is not hearsay. He told it as a first person account and since he's a LEO I have no strong reason to doubt he could be reporting from direct observation. Some of the information was hearsay however.

And yeah, it is very possible for someone's hand to be somewhere accidentally. Or do you think every time someone slams their fingers in a door it's a "negligent door closing"?

 

[jakemccoy]

Ed,

How's your hand doing?

Regards,
Jake McCoy

 

[Ed Ames]

Ed,

How's your hand doing?

Regards,
Jake McCoy

Tsk tsk. You've been doing this repeatedly... I'm very disappointed in you.

Address the facts as known please. Insinuations and insults buy you nothing but cost you much credibility.

 

[hankdatank1362]

Jake... Ed.... you guys have been is a pissing match for FIVE HOURS now.

Think about all the other, more productive things you could have done in 5 hours.

I'll settle it.

The guy accidentally had a negligent discharge.

Done. Enough semantics.

Whatever floats your boat.





This thread needs a lock. I don't see anyhting else constructive to be added.

 

[Charles S]

Agreed

 

[Ed Ames]

Not sure I'd call it a pissing match. I had my point and some of the interchange was quite thought provoking. Especially what Justin, TX1911fan, Beatnik, and a few others added to the conversation. I'm not sure what Jake was after but I've been trying to be fair to him and give him a chance to make his point.

I think I've made mine well enough. Unless someone has something substantive to add I'll bow out.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

And on that note . . .

This thread needs a lock. I don't see anyhting else constructive to be added.

I'd love to present my viewpoint on this, but the water's already pretty muddy.

Let's give it a rest.