Bank of America Unfriendly To Guns and 2nd Amendment (moved from NFA Firearms)

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Charley C

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I just received this in my email today;


From the Owners of McMillan Mfg. in Phoenix , Arizona

McMillan Mfg. in Phoenix , Arizona , was contacted by Bank of America and informed that they will no longer be allowed to use their services (Bank of America) because they are in the firearms business and support the second amendment.

McMillan Fiberglass Stocks, McMillan Firearms Manufacturing, McMillan Group International have been collectively banking with Bank of America for 12 years.

Today Mr. Ray Fox, Senior Vice President, Market Manager, Business Banking, Global Commercial Banking (Bank of America) came to my office.

He scheduled the meeting as an "account analysis" meeting in order to evaluate the two lines of credit we have with them.

He spent 5 minutes talking about how McMillan has changed in the last 5 years and has become more of a firearms manufacturer than a supplier of accessories.

At this point I interrupted him and asked "Can I possibly save you some time so that you don't waste your breath? What you are going to tell me is that because we are in the firearms manufacturing business you no longer want my business."

"That is correct", he says.

I replied "That is okay, we will move our accounts as soon as possible. We can find a 2nd Amendment friendly bank that will be glad to have our business. You won't mind if I tell the NRA, SCI and everyone I know that Bank of America is not firearms-industry friendly?"

"You have to do what you must", he said.

"So you are telling me this is a politically motivated decision, is that right?

Mr. Fox confirmed that it was.

At which point I told him that the meeting was over and there was nothing left for him to say.

I think it is important for all Americans who believe in and support our 2nd amendment "right to keep and bear arms" should know when a business does not support these rights.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. When I don't agree with a business' political position, I cannot, in good conscience support them.

We will soon no longer be accepting Bank of America credit cards as payment for our products.

I am fine with you re-posting it. .. . . . . . . Thank for your support.

Kelly D. McMillan
Director of Operations
McMillan Group International, LLC
623-582-9635<tel:623-582-9635>
1638 W Knudsen Dr
Phoenix , Arizona85027
McMillan Integrity-Global Vision


I urge everyone to do the same! If we get everybody to stand up for the Constitution of The United States we might not have this problem! By the way, Bank of America is a supporter of Obama.


My comments;

I have personally used Bank of America in the past, and have found them to be to be a pain-in-the-neck to do business with. Since then, they have sent me numerous offers to transfer my card balance to their bank, and even though I have advised them that I will never have any desire to do business with them again, they continue to send me offers in the mail. For an number of years now, anything I receive that says Bank of America on it goes directly into the trash, unopened. Inasmuch as this latest information has to do with guns and the 2nd amendment, I thought it might be a good idea to post this on THR to let others know about Bank of America's anti-gun stance.
 
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This is operation chokepoint. This is also what happens when govt bails out business. Govt gets to start calling the shots
 
As I pointed out in 2012...

Yep, BOA has had some dumb policies over the years. They have been known to be anti-gun since at least 2001 and as early as 2003 {recognized} on this board. I just can't figure out why McMillan is upset with BOA. They should be happy to be free of an anti-gun institution that they have supported for the last 11 years.
 
My local gunshop lost its CC processor at 1:30 on a Friday. NRA offered their CC processing and saved the day.

Zak Smith, former moderator here who produces suppressors, got caught in the same BS.
 
A great way to stop businesses from sending unsolicited mail is to send it right back to them in their prepaid envelopes with no information enclosed. Just stuff all the crap they send you (minus your name, address, etc.) back in the envelope they provided and drop it in the mail. They get charged for the envelope being mailed. If enough people do this it will really put a dent in their profits.
 
To everyone complaining about this being posted on the wrong forum...............would you care to discuss exactly how you recommend new members find out about all of the many forums on THR, (or would you prefer that new members just "go someplace else"? )
 
Charley C said:
To everyone complaining about this being posted on the wrong forum...............would you care to discuss exactly how you recommend new members find out about all of the many forums on THR,...

Charley,

I'm sorry you got hammered for posting in the wrong forum. That wasn't right, and I apologize for the lapse in manners of some of our members. I hope this doesn't put you off us.

THR is a large board and can be daunting. But posting in the right forum will help involve the most people in the subject. To get an idea of the various forums here and what they cover, please have a look at the THR Index Page by clicking here.

I'll move the thread.

And the rest of you,

If someone has started a thread in the wrong forum, please just use the "report post" function instead of ragging on the guy.
 
Charley C said:
To everyone complaining about this being posted on the wrong forum...............would you care to discuss exactly how you recommend new members find out about all of the many forums on THR, (or would you prefer that new members just "go someplace else"? )
Relax, no need to get upset, we're simply pointing out that you posted this in the wrong sub-forum. On the main page there's a list of all the sub-forums with a subject description next to it. I recommend reading that list and the descriptions. For example, next to "NFA Firearms and Accessories", it says, "Machine guns, suppressors, short barrels, destructive devices, and any other weapon that's so much fun the US Government charges $200 extra."
 
anything I receive that says Bank of America on it goes directly into the trash

Actually I would send them the envelope with nothing in it. They might have some way of identifying you in the papers they send you. It's possible that it would be included on the envelope but there's no way of knowing. They get charged the same whether the envelope is full or empty. The post office isn't going to open up an envelope to make sure it isn't empty.
 
I quit using my BassPro Bank of America card years ago...in fact I haven't bought a thing from them since.
I can't understand how BassPro promotes BofA especially since they sell guns and ammo:confused:
 
Yes, this is old news. However, has anyone ever determined if this is a policy of Bank of America or is it a policy created by a branch or regional manager?

Inquiring minds want to know. Facts, not unsupported assumptions and opinions.
 
Bank of America Unfriendly To Guns and 2nd Ammendment (moved from NFA Firearms)

This is just ONE reason to avoid BofA. They're guilty of illegal foreclosures, deceptively billing credit card customers for identity and credit protection services they never signed up for, and various other assaults on their customers. The government has just ordered them to pay $800 million in fines and customer refunds for the scam. On top of all of this, they only still exist because WE bailed them out. BofA is a horrible company for many reasons.
 
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lxd55 said:
might be old news, but it is damn sure worth keeping in mind.
Exactly! Forgive - maybe. Forget - never!! :cuss:

And, if you think about their initials - BoA - (not BofA!), and you'll realize that all they want to do is put the "squeeze" on us!
:evil:
 
Bank of America

Wow, I never heard this story before. I've been banking with them since day one (literally). I might have to consider switching banks.
 
Has anyone bothered to confirm this with any evidence or contacting those provided within the email before grabbing their pitchforks and torches?
 
Has anyone bothered to confirm this with any evidence or contacting those provided within the email before grabbing their pitchforks and torches?


This all started when a gun manufacturer Spirit Arms had his bank account frozen by Bank of America and they said BoA did it on purpose because they were a gun manufacturer. BoA blamed it on a computer glitch. BoA has publicly denied that they have any policies that restrict gun businesses from banking with them or any policies that prevent consumers from using their credit/debit cards to purchase guns or related items.

That being said... What follows is substantiated facts...

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-...nancial-protection-bureau-20140409-story.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...-america-countrywide-mortgage-fines/13366837/

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-...-billion-us-dollars-over-gfc-products/5688974
 
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