Bargaining at Gun Shows

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DammitBoy, I have to disagree w/ you (at least where I live). The very best prices I can get here in central VA are at the shows for powder, primers and bullets. I save enough to cover admission. Mail order will get a better "base price", but shipping and then hazmat fee drive the price up unless it's a huge order.

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Are you kidding! They'll rob you blind man!!
I've never had a problem getting components for significantly less than it costs to order online with shipping and hazmat fees. Even when primers were scarce due to hoarding. Last case of WLP's I bought was $132/5000. Powder is always competitive and cast bullets are where I save the most, paying $34 to $45 per 500 where online they're at least $59 to $74 per 500.
 
Unless you are trading them something, bargaining consists mostly of "what's your best cash price?".... You make an offer and they say NO. The majority of the dealers do not bargain much. But the folks that sit up a table that aren't dealers and are selling a few of their personal guns is another matter entirely.
 
Ok here are a few examples of a few things that happened today.
Will not go threw every transaction but just these two as a example.

First a guy wants to look at one of my browning highpowers. it is one of the ones with the internal extractors in very nice condition other than a previous owner put a few very small scratches by the take down lever.
Now this guy looks at it and right off the bat he starts to point out the scratches as if I did not know they were there. I quote him a price under what you could buy a new one for as this pistol is like 95% plus and its over 50 years old. then he starts saying hey its been reblued. I went down the the other end of the tables and just ignored him.
Even IF I decided to talk to him again he would of not even gotten a dime off of any price on anything we had.

Now here is the second deal. A guy wants to work a deal on a K22 and a pre model 27 both 95% plus condition. he has a colt diamond back 22lr still in the box. We discuse the deal and I let him know what I could do and he says let me think a few minutes and off he goes.
Now another guy was watching all of this and was interested in a different pistol but could not buy it today and was talking about a layaway which is just fine. after the first dude walks away he becomes real interested in the pre 27. he sets it down and goes to the other end of one of the tables and starts looking at a few other pistols.
Now the original guy comes back and said how about doing the deal for the pre 27 for the diamond back and he would kick in some cash. I said lets write it up and start the back ground paperwork.

So the second guy seems not happy as now one of the pistols he was looking at has been sold and while he was discussing it one of the ones at the other end he was looking at was sold by my partner. Now he wanted to put one on layaway and after the paperwork he said he was headed over to get some cash and was seen trying to do the same deals at a friends table.

So that was two examples of someone not acting right. first guy just being a jerk and complaining about everything even if it was not true and the second guy without any money wasting folks time. loved it when two of the pistols were sold because he could not make up his mind on something he could not afford anyway.

Then our show closed at 5 today and after 5 minutes after 5 a dude walks up and wants to buy a garand. I informed him we could do the deal but he would have to return the following day to the show to pick it up or pick it up at the shop next week or put it on layaway and pick it up later. He said he would get it tommorrow and wanted to charge it.
I said ok lets start the paperwork and my partner gets his credit card and gets ready to run it. Now he sits down and I asked him for his ID to start the paperwork and let him know we opened at 9 on sunday mourning and then he said he wanted to take it home tonight. I went down to my partner and told him not to run the card and he had not completed it and stopped.
now this guys states he does not plan on doing the back ground but wants to take it home as we already charged him.
Funny as I gave everything back to him and told him NO his credit card was NOT charged and if he wanted the rifle he could just come back the next day.
Bottom line is I was not going to wait the 2 hours the backgrounds were running at the time which would of put me sitting there like two hours after the show and I flat told him I was not breaking the law by just giving him a rifle. I was lucky I stopped my partner from charging his card as I would of got hit with the credit card fees both ways if I would of had to do a CC refund.

So does this just let you know how a day goes for a dealer at a show. What makes it nice is that the other hundred or so folks I dealt with today where nice and kind.
 
I usually head out to dinner with other dealers after the show on sat. we all still went but I stayed in the bar and had a few drinks with my meal. I feal much better now. LOL
 
Unless you are trading them something, bargaining consists mostly of "what's your best cash price?".... You make an offer and they say NO. The majority of the dealers do not bargain much.
Exactly! Also, there is not much point in negotiating for a $300 gun with a $500 price tag.
 
I like to go and look. Sometimes I see a good buy or something I need. If not its an afternoon away from chores...
 
I would NOT drive 4 hours for a gun show!!! That's 8 hours in the car round trip!!! What a total waste of a day.

At most, I will drive an hour for a gun show, and that's usually only if there's something else I need to do in that particular town also or if there's something I really want to sell or buy...

That said, I do enjoy going to gun shows. I have NEVER seen a good deal from a dealer. The good deals are always walking around in private sales. And I have gotten some shockingly amazing deals from private sellers very motivated to sell for economic reasons.

Think about it from the FFL's standpoint. They have hours of work and risk in loading and moving all their inventory to the gunshow, each day, the cost of the booth, and sitting there all day basically trapped in some hot or cold warehouse dealing with all sorts of folks... what's their incentive to cut you a deal? I wonder why they even do it, frankly... the margin on new guns is sooo slim. It must be for the accessories or the used guns they bring in and resell...

IF, IF, IF you and your friends go, I would consider renting a table. It's only a few bucks each, gives you a place to camp out and sit down and check out things and such...
 
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I went to a gun show yesterday morning. I have been wanting a .22 pistol and had settled on a Ruger Mark III 22/45 Target model with a 5 1/2' bull barrel.

Cabela's has them for 369.00
Bud's has them online for 259.00 add the 20.00 my FFL charges = 279.00

I paid 250.00 cash, and the dealer threw in an extra mag. I am pleased with my purchase and I am sure the dealer made out OK. It was a pleasant transaction all around, and I have the guy's card for future dealings.
 
I am from North carolina and go to alot of shows in this state, the Chantilly show in VA is a awesome show. You need to be there on Friday afternoon at 3:00 pm when they open the doors if you want to get a deal on something your looking for. If you want a deal, bring cash, buddies arn't going to matter.
 
Impossible!

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I went to a gun show yesterday morning. I have been wanting a .22 pistol and had settled on a Ruger Mark III 22/45 Target model with a 5 1/2' bull barrel.

Cabela's has them for 369.00
Bud's has them online for 259.00 add the 20.00 my FFL charges = 279.00

I paid 250.00 cash, and the dealer threw in an extra mag. I am pleased with my purchase and I am sure the dealer made out OK. It was a pleasant transaction all around, and I have the guy's card for future dealings.

Dear longhair, you need to go see your doctor about these hallucinations. Obviously, as posted throughout this thread - there are no deals at gunshows.

Hope your MRI results are ok... :D

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ps - I'll be going to the gunshow in Jackson next weekend, where I'm sure to find a great deal.
 
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Well I brought my 38 Taurus ulralight multi alloy, it was only made a year or two, and I thought if I could swap it out for a 40 caliber auto, I would do it. After about 4 hours, "i went with my buddies" and they all buy a lot of stuff. I figured I would try this last little table that only had a few guns, "i didn't even know what he had". I see this Taurus slim in 40, looked nice, and that was my plan, so let's see what I can make happen. These guys happened to know the gun and owner had owned one and was looking for a second for his wife. Bingo, even swap, I got my 40, and he got the Revolver. He knew what the gun was worth. Most of the guys there had no idea that it was indeed a quality gun that at 11.5 ozs in plus p, with maybe 50 rounds downrange, he got a good deal. He started off asking me to kick in $50.00 but I said i'll keep it then you know what it is. He then said. "sit down and fill out the paperwork", and that was it. We both got what we wanted, but you need to stick to your plan and not allow yourself to get diverted, or you will end up with a gun you don't need or want, and give up one you will want back. It's a nice little 19 0z 40 caliber, 7/8 of an inch thick. i will get the extensions for it and have another gun for rotation. Now I need a 357,or 44 mag for Hogs. We decided that's our next adventure. These two guys are ex military and know each other since they were kids, and both did Nam together, so it's a pleasure just to be around them.
I try to make everything fun, and sometimes the people you go with can make even the crapiest show interesting. I can learn more listening to these two guys than reading the Marine corps handbook, If you want to get a good deal, sometimes you need to talk to the guy standing next to you and find out he knows someone who has or wants what you have.
 
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