Barnaul .223 ammo

[Crow1108]

I was wondering how Barnaul's .223 ammo is. Pretty good value, or just junk? I wanna buy some bulk ammo to keep around, but I don't want to go for the Wolf. Thanks.

 

[Onmilo]

In my experience it has been better than Wolf.
No chamber jams and acceptable plinking and practice accuracy.

 

[rcmodel]

It's still steel-case Russian crap though.


rcmodel

 

[forrestd]

It's still steel-case Russian crap though.

Which is why it costs half as much as high quality ammo. It works great for plinking.

 

[geojap]

I have never had any failures with it. I can shoot a 30 round mag into a 4 inch circle at 100 yards in my Saiga .223. I think it is very good range or day to day ammo. I think it is a great buy considering the price.

 

[wcwhitey]

I look for it when I need to go inexpensive. I have found it to be very good, accurate enough and cleaner than Wolf.

 

[DMK]

I've never shot steel cased .223, but I've found Barnual to be better than Wolf or Silver Bear in 7.62x39 and 9x18. It's more consistent, groups better, and is cleaner.

 

[LeibstandarteAdH]

I recently got 500 rounds of the Barnual nickel plated .223 JHP from AIM for $209 or something like that, that has ran much much better than wolf through an STG-2003c (.223 AK) and a bushy M4.

I have not had one single jam or anything of the sort in the .223 ak with a full 500 round box of the nickel plated JHP.

 

[Deer Hunter]

Barnaul is great stuff. My saiga loves it. I've got around 300 rounds of that, plus about that same amount of Wolf.

 

[Gary G23]

As far as steel cased commie ammo goes it is the best of the breed.

Some guns will work fine with steel cased ammo, some won't. I had a Bushmaster that I put 10,000 rounds of Barnual through and only broke one extractor. I sold it and got a LMT. It wouldn't fire two rounds without an empty case getting stuck in the chamber.

I would try it before I bought a bunch.

 

[aka108]

OK for the money. I think if someone loaded up my AK or Saiga with a mixture of the Russian brands I would not know the difference when firing.

 

[MD_Willington]

My saiga likes it, but it's a Russian gun too... it also likes .223 HSM brass cased...

 

[salty]

It is great Saiga foodder. Basically the same as wolf for your AR - dirty and so so accuracy.

 

[rcmodel]

Commie Ammo is for Commie Guns!


rcmodel

 

[Onmilo]

Yeah,,,,thing is,,, this stuff isn't Chinese, it is Russian and they don't play under the communist doctrine anymore though Putin and his merry band are pushing the envelope.

 

[LeibstandarteAdH]

I wasnt aware that the russian federation didnt still have an active and dominate communist party.

 

[rcmodel]

I wasn't aware the state owned & run arsenals weren't the ones still making all the Russian ammo.

It may not be a Communist country any longer, but it is still the same old Communist factories, making it on the same old Communist machinery, to the same old Communist specs.


rcmodel

 

[seektruth]

If I hadn't started reloading, I'd still be buying more Barnaul. It works fine for me.

 

[MIL-DOT]

as i understand, barnaul makes brown bear ammo ( and the others too,silver and gold bear). is there any difference in the barnaul and bear labeled stuff?

 

[geojap]

Mil-dot, I use some .223 Barnaul and Silver Bear in my Saiga and Sig 556 rifles. Both work just fine and I can't find anything wrong with it or any difference between them.

 

[Deer Hunter]

Mildot,

My dad swears that the Golden bear 30-06 I ordered for him is the hottest 30-06 he's ever shot, if that makes any difference.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I've run it in my AR-10 with no problems. I keep a spare extractor on hand. At half the price for a case vs. brass stuff, I don't mind if I have to replace a $30 extractor from time to time.

 

[LeibstandarteAdH]

as i understand, barnaul makes brown bear ammo ( and the others too,silver and gold bear). is there any difference in the barnaul and bear labeled stuff?

Depending on caliber and lot, the 'bear' ammo is a toss up between Barnual, Ulyanovsk and even sometimes Vympel.

 

[MIL-DOT]

thanks guys.....i'm refering to 7.62x39 brown bear i just ordered from AIM. i recently read some off-hand reference to the " hit and miss of barnaul ammo" or something to that effect, and was hoping i didn't just order a case of questionable ammo.
and to the OP, sorry, i hope i didn't side-track your thread !!!

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Steel Cased Ammo + American Extractors

I have heard from them what knows better than I, that it can be bad juju for your meant-for-brass-cases American extractor to be asked to grab on steel cases too much.

I are not expert on this, but it rings true.

I will, of course, bow to anyone with actual experience, say, 50,000 miles on their extractor shooting steel-cased stuff.