Barrel Break in Question

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Ok, I recently bought a spanky new SA M1A Loaded. I haven't fired it yet. I'm waiting to finish reading all the materials and articles I have about it before taking her to the range. but I noticed a product called the "DYNA-BORE COAT KIT". It claims to bond to the bore and results in significantly less fouling, much quicker cleaning and lasts for the useful life of the barrel. Questions:

Can anyone share their experience with this product?

If it is a worthwhile product should it be applied to a brand new barrel or should I go through a break in procedure for the barrel first and then apply the product?


Thanks!
 
I know nothing about that product, but applying a semi-liquid coating to the bore could cause a problem with the gas port, and may clog or inhibit.

An email or call to the company's product line or SA may give you some insight whether to use it or not.



NCsmitty
 
Speaking up as a voice of the "Shoot, and enjoy!" crowd, hey, just make sure the bore is free of any leftover factory whatzits, go to the range and shoot and enjoy.

Never hurts to field strip and do a little wipedown with an oily rag, of course. I guess maybe a wee smidgen of grease where the bolt lug and op rod get all married up. Otherwise, shoot, enjoy and clean it when you get home.

"Break in" has come about with the rise of the Internet. Before the Internet, no "gunnie" I ever met ever mentioned such a thing.
 
clean the rifle before you fire a single shot!!!

I have pulled brand new guns out of the box and found all kinds of crap in them from metal shavings to parts that were supposed to be oiled that were bone dry.

Run a couple patches down the bore with some hoppes, or similar, to clear out any grease or dried up lube used during machining or assembly.

I would put a couple hundred rounds through the bore to smooth out any machining marks in the bore before using any type of coating products, otherwise you may seal in any burrs or rough spots in the barrel.
 
Thanks Art, another from the "shoot and enjoy" crowd commending you on a fantastic job of representing the rest of us. +1 to break it down and clean before you shoot also.

Colt, I think the most important question is, are you using this gun for matches/hunting/HD/other? First think about what the gun is being used for, then sight it in and check the groups (while cleaning if you are going through a "formal break-in") and see what she does. Then take her home and play with her :D
 
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Thanks gents. I don't have a specific application for the rifle yet. Probably just target for now, maybe zombies after the apocalypse. :D I have always loved this rifle and finally treated myself. It was a good Christmas for me. I picked up a minty Browning 1886 rifle a few weeks earlier also. Another one I'd been wanting for a while. One of the few perks to still being single. I don't have to ask for permission. Good advice from everybody. I don't really want to go through a formal break-in procedure if it's unnecessary. opinions vary but it doesn't seem like a big deal. I will strip it and clean and oil/grease it before firing. But after that and a few hundred rounds, applying a product like the Bore-Cote should be ok? The description mentions "Dyna-Bore bonds molecularly to the barrel, and once cured (after 8-10 rounds) is only .25 microns thick, so it has NO effect on velocity, point of impact, or group size." Does that sound like it could possibly obstruct the gas port?

Happy New Year everybody!
 
I don't really want to go through a formal break-in procedure if it's unnecessary.
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Sensible.
Just go shoot. Clean the gun before and after. Shoot and enjoy.
Pete
 
Hard for me to imagine a coating that isn't done in a formal manufacturing environment that will hold up to a bullet zipping down the bore. Seems like a gimmick to me. My technique to condition rifling is to shoot a whole bunch of jacketed bullets. :D

+1 to cleaning before firing.
 
Yet another +1 for cleaning before firing.
I got my marlin 925 and there was some metallic brown goop in the barrel. When i cleaned it again after a couple hundred rounds i got it clean in one sweep with a double patch. I was pretty surprised
 
"Break in" has come about with the rise of the Internet. Before the Internet, no "gunnie" I ever met ever mentioned such a thing.
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Before the Internet, I was reading Precision Shooting mag. All the benchresters broke in their barrels.

I am doing one right now. It does seem to get easier to clean with each shot. Cleaning is such a pain in the ass, I am willing to invest some time up front to reduce efforts later.

I never heard of this kit though.
 
I know several people who have used it, in addition to reading about John Barsness' experiences with the stuff. It is real, and it does work as advertised. Once you coat the bore according to the instructions, any future fouling literally gets pushed out with the first patch. Just don't take a brass brush to it or you'll have to recoat the bore. It shouldn't block the gas port, but it will clear your sinuses!
 
I definitely plan to clean and lube the gun before firing. And I am going to run a few hundred rounds through the barrel before I apply any coatings. I don't know if I have the patience for tedious break-in procedures or if it even offers significant advantages in a rifle like the M1A. I'm sure the potential of the rifle is far beyond my skill at this point. I don't have much experience with rifles, yet. But I'm pretty sure the fun is in the shootin' not the cleanin'.

I am not associated with the product in discussion in any way. I'm only curious about if for my own use. But if anyone else is curious about it too, do a search on the Brownells website for "DYNA-BORE COAT KIT". Thanks Buzzard et al. for the information. I'd be interested in the educated opinions of other experienced riflemen as well.
 
My $0.02:

I agree with Mr. Eatman: Clean the rifle (especially the bore), shoot it, and clean it again when you get home.

(After the range session, clean the bore, then hit it with some copper solvent and check for a green patch after 10 minutes or so. Repeat until the green is gone. A little JB bore paste in the throat might be useful if you see a ton of copper fouling.)
 
Wait, wait, wait a minute. Doesn't this rifle have a CHROME-LINED bore? :confused:

Sorry, Charlie.

Run a swab down it...shoot it and enjoy. :cool:

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M1key,

I have a chrome-moly barrel on my M1A. I didn't see anything on the website or in the manual about the bore being chrome lined. But I don't know much about it.

Seems like the popular vote is just clean it and shoot it. That works for me. I'm not trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
 
The M1a will be furnished to you dirty and dry. You will need to clean it, then grease it at the points detailed in the Army technical manual that Springfield provides with the rifle.

You will need to use grease, not oil. There are many gun greases, such as Tetra, etc. appropriate to the M1a. I use high temp molybdenum disulfide grease from the auto parts store. It's inexpensive (lifetime supply for maybe $5) and works flawlessly.

If shooting in cold weather, the Army specifies LSA as a lubricant. Not sure what a commercial equivalent would be. ATF, perhaps? I shoot mine down to 0deg F with grease to no ill effect, but I don't sleep in a ranger grave with the rifle and engage in gunfights before breakfast.

They specify shooting it dry in arctic weather.

Shoot it. Clean it. Shoot it more.

Have fun.
 
nyresq said:
clean the rifle before you fire a single shot!!!

I have pulled brand new guns out of the box and found all kinds of crap in them from metal shavings to parts that were supposed to be oiled that were bone dry.

Run a couple patches down the bore with some hoppes, or similar, to clear out any grease or dried up lube used during machining or assembly.

I would put a couple hundred rounds through the bore to smooth out any machining marks in the bore before using any type of coating products, otherwise you may seal in any burrs or rough spots in the barrel.
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I agree with this... many new guns have dry parts that need lube, or particles in the bore, just give a quick inspection before shooting. Read the manual before shooting. .. As far as the coating goes... NO
 
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