Barrel liner info wanted

[Sburk1993]

Hey guys so Im wanting to know who to talk to about getting a barrel or two lined potentially.
I have a 53 Enfield that the riffling is basically gone. Apparently a "good bore" on gb means no riffling lol oh well. I also have a traditions blunderbuss that I love and just go crazy with because why not. Any way so the thought is to reline the Enfield to .577 and while I'm at it get the blunderbuss bored out to .577 so it's more accurate then just a 16 inch smooth bore.
So if you know who to call or email about this please let me know

 

[hawg]

I'm not sure a 53 Enfield barrel is thick enough to line.

 

[woodnbow]

I'm not sure a 53 Enfield barrel is thick enough to line.

If it can be done Bobby Hoyt will be able to do it. If…

 

[Sburk1993]

I'm not sure a 53 Enfield barrel is thick enough to line.

I seen a Springfield that has been relined on gb but I agree it is kinda thin at the muzzle

 

[Sburk1993]

If it can be done Bobby Hoyt will be able to do it. If…

If.. what how would I get ahold of him

 

[l.cutler]

Enfields and springfields are the most common guns to be relined. A lot of NSSA shooters use them. Hoyt definitely does them.

 

[woodnbow]

If.. what how would I get ahold of him

Bobby Hoyt Freischutz Shop, 2379 Mt Hope Rd, Farfield PA. 717-642-669 if you call early 7:00 or so, you could catch him before he turns on the machines. After that?

 

[Sburk1993]

Bobby Hoyt Freischutz Shop, 2379 Mt Hope Rd, Farfield PA. 717-642-669 if you call early 7:00 or so, you could catch him before he turns on the machines. After that?

Thank you

 

[woodnbow]

De nada… we support those who support us. Best of luck with your project!

 

[Ugly Sauce]

I seen a Springfield that has been relined on gb but I agree it is kinda thin at the muzzle

I don't know about the Enfield, but the '61 is very thin at the muzzle, as the barrel has quite a taper on it. As long as there is some meat on it, I don't think it would be any kind of safety concern. The breech on them things is very hefty. Perhaps the Enfield does not have such a steep taper from breech to muzzle. ?

If I could ever sell my snowmobile, I'd like to have Hoyt (if he'd do it) bore my 1861 just enough to clean out the shallow three-groove minnie' ball rifling, and then rifle it for round ball. On the other hand, I'm beginning to think my Japanese "Zouave" would be a better candidate, as it has a lumpy bore.

Anyhow, yeah from what I hear Hoyt re-lines a lot of "rifled muskets".

 

[hawg]

The 61 Springfield has a 1:72 twist. Even with shallow three groove rifling it should do well with round balls but minies will be accurate at greater distances.

 

[SlowFuse]

Hoyt is your guy for re-line.

Another option is a full re-barrel, for that Whitacre Machine shop would be my recommendation.

 

[Sburk1993]

I'm going to call hoyt Tomorrow. Any one have a rough estimate on the pricing

 

[Ugly Sauce]

The 61 Springfield has a 1:72 twist. Even with shallow three groove rifling it should do well with round balls but minies will be accurate at greater distances.

That is true, but in my experience it won't do well with heavy hunting charges, ball or slug. With light charges they will shoot quite well. But, I think I'm "about there" with the LEE REAL. I do kind of don't want to mess with the bore/rifling, as it's quite nice, for what it is. The Japanese "Zouave" on the other hand, I've been shooting it lately, it's not a bad rifle as far as fit, finish and overall quality, just that it has that lumpy bore. So I'm thinking it's a better candidate to bore out and re-rifle, if Hoyt is willing to work on the old Mirouko barrels.

 

[hawg]

That is true, but in my experience it won't do well with heavy hunting charges, ball or slug. With light charges they will shoot quite well. But, I think I'm "about there" with the LEE REAL. I do kind of don't want to mess with the bore/rifling, as it's quite nice, for what it is. The Japanese "Zouave" on the other hand, I've been shooting it lately, it's not a bad rifle as far as fit, finish and overall quality, just that it has that lumpy bore. So I'm thinking it's a better candidate to bore out and re-rifle, if Hoyt is willing to work on the old Mirouko barrels.

Why not just use minies? 70 grains of powder behind a 500 grain minie will do some damage. 60 grains was the original service charge but my Enfield will handle 70 without blowing the skirt.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

Because...I hunt (when I hunt up North) in a Grizzly recovery area. Should I be charged by grizz, and only have that one shot, those loads just fall a little short of giving me "confidence". Really, to feel warm safe and fuzzy, I'd rather be in the 85 to 100 grain range. Maybe it's just a psychological thing. ?? A .58-70-500 "probably", "most likely" would do the trick, (I have faith in my .45-70's) but...I'd just feel better (warmer and fuzzier) with a .58-85-500, or a .58-90-500. !!!! So, that's what I'm striving for.