Bear mauling.

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MC, take that KLR of yours up there, I did it last summer on mine and had a ball. Didn't get to hunt but did some fishing.
AK was a bucket list item for me and now I'm trying to plan my return , next time on the Electra Glide.
I'd plan on a months time at a minimum though.
A kid my daughter went to school with is there guiding now, I hope I can get him to take me out if I can get back up there during a Moose or Caribou season.
 
Reading the account, the guy was moose hunting. Since Jim mentioned in another thread that moose hunting costs 15K or better for a hunt, this is a RICH Texan. I suppose he can afford Obamacare. I'm two years away from medicare. Guess I'd better postpone the Alaska trip until I have health insurance
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Actully the article never said they were guided. Self done AK moose hunt non resident hunting license $85 + $400 tag fee. Plus airfare. I have guided friends here for 2-3 trips and if for what ever reason I can't go with them I turn them loose on their own.
I've shown them where to go, how to get there and what to do when they get there. So they hunt fairly cheap.
I would not recommend a non resident just come up here and try to hunt without help though. It's just to much.
Favorite non res story: Friend of mine from NY [first class hunter BTW] brings up a co-worker of his for a moose hunt. I've never met the guy. Well he refused to go more then 10 yards from the tent. All the bear tracks [and there are plenty up there] scared him silly.
Some people just don't belong in Alaska.
 
Alaska is cold
Texas is hot
When it came to the bear
The Texan couldn't make the shot
 
MC, take that KLR of yours up there, I did it last summer on mine and had a ball. Didn't get to hunt but did some fishing.
AK was a bucket list item for me and now I'm trying to plan my return , next time on the Electra Glide.
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THAT, I've thought about. I've known 3 guys, one BMW GS and two on KLRs that did the AlCan. It would be a total blast. However, the wife doesn't like riding and I'd rather take her. :D My late wife worked anyway and I'd take off for hither and yon on the bike on my 7 off (worked rotating shifts 7 days off each month). The KLR would be a hoot on that run. :D Don't know if I could make it on one set of tires, though. LOL That's a long ride. But, heck, I'd be at least half way there when I got to Washington, I reckon. And, if the AlCan were too much, I could hop one of those ferry boats up the inside passage. Might could take a side arm that way, maybe, but Canada is a no-no.
 
We put new rear tires on in Anchorage, don't know the exact mileage. On the return we took the ferry from Haines to Bellingham. Not really a good way to work in a handgun on the trip but I think a single shot Stevens or H&R would work and fit on the bike with a 18" barrel.
Bear spray, estwing camp axe and Glock shovel were our weapons.
 
The best way to hunt Bears along a willow choaked river in Fall time here is to go to a small creek with a sand bar thats out quite a ways and start a fire, cook some Caribou and slather in BBQ sauce, toss the bones and pour BBQ sauce on to extinguish said fire and wait till one comes out and looks for the party.

Get in your boat along the bank or sit on the bank itself and watch quietly from a fair to short distance away....

You can Judge 'em fat or skinny, big or small or cubbed up or not.


But now I know why they preferr Texans. Its the sauce.:)
 
Well, caribou, Texicans are a pretty saucy bunch. :)

Most anywhere I went in Europe, anybody from the US was spoken of (or to) as a yankee. Most of the folks I met generally liked Americans, but didn't like our government. Nothing much has changed since 1957.
 
It IS from the pipeline days, and it's not just Texans. (But they're an easy target.)

In the 70's, roughnecks-experienced oilfield workers-from Texas and Oklahoma came up here, took all the high paying jobs building the pipeline (because what Alaskans at the time knew how to weld oil pipe, etc), and Alaskans got left out in the cold. Once the money was all gone, and the economy tanked n the early 80's, all the Texans left, and took their money with them. Heck even the prostitutes and pimps were from the Lower 48 in those days.

Fast forward 30 years and it's still happening in a LOT of industries. LOTS of slope workers (oil field workers working on the North Slope of the Brooks mountain range i.e. Prudhoe Bay/Kuparuk) come up here for 2-3 weeks, earn a lot of money and then fly out. The only jobs for Alaskans are "Roustabouts" ("do-boys" and general manual labor on the field), kitchen help, and maids/janitors. It's not just the oil industry, either. My career field (I'm not going to name it) does the same thing. They hire outsiders every year, passing up local talent every year.

It's the same old story in Alaska History dating back to Territorial days and before, when Alaska was essentially a US colony: too much money going out and not enough staying in. And it's all going to Texas and Oklahoma.
 
We put new rear tires on in Anchorage, don't know the exact mileage. On the return we took the ferry from Haines to Bellingham. Not really a good way to work in a handgun on the trip but I think a single shot Stevens or H&R would work and fit on the bike with a 18" barrel.
Bear spray, estwing camp axe and Glock shovel were our weapons.
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Well, weren't really thinkin' about bears. I concealed carry whenever I have clothes on and Texas only has a few black bear. As a Texan, taking my hog leg off is like undressing in public. :D But, I'd like to carry a 4" .357 with heavy loads just in case. :D I have a .45 Colt Blackhawk, but wouldn't risk it to confiscation. Besides, the .357 would conceal better.

It IS from the pipeline days, and it's not just Texans. (But they're an easy target.)
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Mmm, so we're judged by our oilfield trash, eh? Hey, some of us are of higher character, 'cept for me and maybe Art. :D

Sorry, OFT, just speaking the truth...uh, kidding. :D
 
The Alaskan said:
It IS from the pipeline days, and it's not just Texans. (But they're an easy target.)

In the 70's, roughnecks-experienced oilfield workers-from Texas and Oklahoma came up here, took all the high paying jobs building the pipeline (because what Alaskans at the time knew how to weld oil pipe, etc), and Alaskans got left out in the cold. Once the money was all gone, and the economy tanked n the early 80's, all the Texans left, and took their money with them. Heck even the prostitutes and pimps were from the Lower 48 in those days.

Fast forward 30 years and it's still happening in a LOT of industries. LOTS of slope workers (oil field workers working on the North Slope of the Brooks mountain range i.e. Prudhoe Bay/Kuparuk) come up here for 2-3 weeks, earn a lot of money and then fly out. The only jobs for Alaskans are "Roustabouts" ("do-boys" and general manual labor on the field), kitchen help, and maids/janitors. It's not just the oil industry, either. My career field (I'm not going to name it) does the same thing. They hire outsiders every year, passing up local talent every year.

It's the same old story in Alaska History dating back to Territorial days and before, when Alaska was essentially a US colony: too much money going out and not enough staying in. And it's all going to Texas and Oklahoma.
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My favorite bumper sticker from the pipeline days was "happiness is a Oklahoman leaving with a Texan under both arms"
 
The Alaskan said:
It IS from the pipeline days, and it's not just Texans. (But they're an easy target.)

In the 70's, roughnecks-experienced oilfield workers-from Texas and Oklahoma came up here, took all the high paying jobs building the pipeline (because what Alaskans at the time knew how to weld oil pipe, etc), and Alaskans got left out in the cold. Once the money was all gone, and the economy tanked n the early 80's, all the Texans left, and took their money with them. Heck even the prostitutes and pimps were from the Lower 48 in those days.

Fast forward 30 years and it's still happening in a LOT of industries. LOTS of slope workers (oil field workers working on the North Slope of the Brooks mountain range i.e. Prudhoe Bay/Kuparuk) come up here for 2-3 weeks, earn a lot of money and then fly out. The only jobs for Alaskans are "Roustabouts" ("do-boys" and general manual labor on the field), kitchen help, and maids/janitors. It's not just the oil industry, either. My career field (I'm not going to name it) does the same thing. They hire outsiders every year, passing up local talent every year.

It's the same old story in Alaska History dating back to Territorial days and before, when Alaska was essentially a US colony: too much money going out and not enough staying in. And it's all going to Texas and Oklahoma.
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That is sad to hear actually. Several of the Texans I knew that were roughnecks left a part of them in Alaska. Usually a finger or two. (not a joke)
 
I am pretty sure....complaining about Texans or Oklahoman's has nothing to do with the bear mauling. Funny how these threads can get off topic.
 
It's all my fault. I admit I threw out that it was a Texas hunter just to watch the outrage that was sure to come. I was not disappointed.
If it was some other state no one would care.
 
Cowboyhockey14 said:
I am pretty sure....complaining about Texans or Oklahoman's has nothing to do with the bear mauling. Funny how these threads can get off topic.
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Actually I think that was the point of this thread from the beginning.

jim in Anchorage said:
It's all my fault. I admit I threw out that it was a Texas hunter just to watch the outrage that was sure to come. I was not disappointed.
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So you’re basically saying that you enjoy trolling Texans?

Most reasonable people would understand that whether the hunter knew what he was doing or not is not dependent upon his home state. Yet from the very outset of this thread, you have tried to imply that because he was from Texas, he must not have realized he was in Alaska and that we have bears and not hogs running around. You don't think that is the least bit denigrating?

My wife and I moved here because we wanted to try something different. I knew going into it that the move would be negative to our earning potential and careers (once the much higher cost of living is taken into consideration), but I chose to make that sacrifice because I love it Alaska and feel there’s no place else like it (kind of like Texas). But go ahead and bash my home state. Whether you like it or not, a lot of your neighbors are former Texans and Texans make up the largest group of people relocating to Alaska.

If it was some other state no one would care.
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Actually I have seen quite a few threads on here where people bash Californians, and current and former Californians on this forum feel compelled to speak up and remind everyone that not all Californians and regions of California are alike.

The Alaskan said:
It's the same old story in Alaska History dating back to Territorial days and before, when Alaska was essentially a US colony: too much money going out and not enough staying in. And it's all going to Texas and Oklahoma.
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I understand the resentment that comes from North Slope jobs being given to out of state people, but I think that has started to change a lot in the last the few years. A lot of companies are no longer paying for employees to fly back and forth to the Lower 48 in between shifts. They are now responsible to get themselves to and from Anchorage.

I work in the oil and gas field. While I have done plenty of Alaska work, my current job is based in Houston. I work remotely from Anchorage and do nothing but Texas work. Should Texans resent me?
 
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The Alaskan said:
It IS from the pipeline days, and it's not just Texans. (But they're an easy target.)

In the 70's, roughnecks-experienced oilfield workers-from Texas and Oklahoma came up here, took all the high paying jobs building the pipeline (because what Alaskans at the time knew how to weld oil pipe, etc), and Alaskans got left out in the cold. Once the money was all gone, and the economy tanked n the early 80's, all the Texans left, and took their money with them. Heck even the prostitutes and pimps were from the Lower 48 in those days.

Fast forward 30 years and it's still happening in a LOT of industries. LOTS of slope workers (oil field workers working on the North Slope of the Brooks mountain range i.e. Prudhoe Bay/Kuparuk) come up here for 2-3 weeks, earn a lot of money and then fly out. The only jobs for Alaskans are "Roustabouts" ("do-boys" and general manual labor on the field), kitchen help, and maids/janitors. It's not just the oil industry, either. My career field (I'm not going to name it) does the same thing. They hire outsiders every year, passing up local talent every year.

It's the same old story in Alaska History dating back to Territorial days and before, when Alaska was essentially a US colony: too much money going out and not enough staying in. And it's all going to Texas and Oklahoma.
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Outsiders? We're all Americans. The world of business is a competitive one. Any industry will hire the best qualified. So you are annoyed because Alaskans didn't/don't have the skills to compete in the oil industry? Whose fault is that?
 
It is amazing to me that this went from a perfectly good opportunity to discuss "what caliber for bear" for the 12th billion time, to a state by state bashing contest. This is a perfect example of why I do love the internet so....:rolleyes:;)

There is a saying in New Mexico where I'm from. "Remember the good old days before the Californians moved in, when used to hate the Texans?"
IMHO you simply have to have a good dense of humor when dealing with that level of ignorance. :)
 
Choctaw said:
Outsiders? We're all Americans. The world of business is a competitive one. Any industry will hire the best qualified. So you are annoyed because Alaskans didn't/don't have the skills to compete in the oil industry? Whose fault is that?
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Calling some one from the lower 48 a "outsider" is comman in Alaska. I have been asked if Alaska has any roads? Does Anchorage have a airport? Do any woman live in Alaska? Do you use American currency? How can you stand 6 months of darkness?
So yeah these people are "outsiders" to us.
 
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