Beer at Gun Club

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At a recent meeting of my Trap and Skeet Club we had a discussion about keeping beer in the clubhouse 'fridge. Of course, drinking and shooting is strictly prohibited, but a few guys want to have a few beers after shooting. The club president had no problems with members drinking, but he didn't like the idea of keeping the beer stocked in the clubhouse. He'd rather have members bring coolers and then take the beer home.

How is this handled at other clubs? My only experience shooting is at this club.
 
Trap and skeet clubs often seem to have a bar associated with them, either formally or informally.

Pistol and rifle clubs seem to be far more strict about alcohol on premises.

I am in favor of not drinking before or during gun handling and shooting.
 
Keep in mind that in Texas .08 is driving over the legal limit.

Guess how many beers it takes to put you over .08.........................ONE!

That is right folks, one light beer will put most people over the limit for about a half hour. { had a friend of mine prove it to me at a barbeque one afternoon} I am 6'4" and weigh 260 and was at .08 for a half hour.


I also believe that possession of a firearm enhances a DUI to a class "A" misdemeanor{ although I am not positive }


If you are so much of an addict that you feel the need to keep beer at the gun club, you probably should not own firearms.
 
And on another note, if you have a minor under the age of 15 in the vehicle with you it is a state jail felony in Texas, and possession of a firearm while committing a felony seriously enhances the penalty.

Thank "Project Exile" for that.
 
The place I used to work at would allow consumpsion before making the the course. They would allow consumpsion while playing bump off the wobble trap.
 
Most gun clubs that I know of do not allow alcohol on the premisis.

Reason being, guns and alcohol do not mix.

But then again, most social clubs cannot survive without a bar. Either you make money, or you go out of buisness.

You have to have a line drawn someplace that says no alcohol beyond this point. Also no one allowed that has been consuming alcohol beyond this point.

Sooner or later someone is going to be playing cards and be called a cheater or someone is going to look at someone else's old lady or make a comment that the other person didn't like and the next thing you know, it will be the OK Corral all over again.
 
Guns and alcohol don't mix.....PERIOD!

Once you've started down that path it's impossible to determine where the line is drawn or who's going to inforce the guidlines. Add to that the liability for the club and officers, it's too big a risk for loosing the club and personal assets. Gun ranges are for shooting....nightclubs & bars are for drinking.
 
I disagree. I don't drink much, and frankly in the past ten years I've probably consumed as much beer at shooting events as anywhere else. I usually have two or three beers per year.

The hard, bright line you draw is that shooting is first, drinking is second, and alcohol doesn't come out until all the guns are put away. I've never had a problem with that.

My club is in a dry township, though, so it's not really an issue for us. We don't even allow members to have empties in a truck bed on club property.
 
With the common conception that all Gun Owners are Drunken, Stump Jumpers, Hillbillys and Rednecks, Why would one belong to an orginization that aided and abetted this image. Alcohol and Gun Powder do not mix. DUI limits are dropping not increasing, as already stated possesing a firearm while commiting another crime has stiffer penalties in a lot of states. Why would anybody want to take that risk?
I am not speaking out against this as a recovering alcoholic, I could care less who drinks what as long as I don't drink I am O'k.
2A rights are being construed as a privelage that may be revoked, by many who oppose the Second Ammendment, Why would anyone want to give them any reason to further their cause?
 
Strictly forbidden at our range and I think it should be. There's a place to shoot and there's a place to drink. If you mix the two someone usually goes to jail. (Flame suit on) :cool:
 
C'mon, let's not start this puritan BS again... Some folks shouldn't drink at all and some can drink a butt-load and conduct themselves as responsible CCWers.
Cookie-cutter rules rarely hold up to the rule of logic.

Biker
 
Respectfully

Alcohol and Guns on the range or in the clubhouse should NEVER be
tolerated. Too many times I have carried under age teenagers to the
range to learn too shoot, and have a good time. I wouldn't want some
one addicted to alochol (or drugs) interrupting me while I'm giving these
juveniles instruction in the proper use of firearms. Sorry guy's, but that
is my stance; and I'm sticking too it~!:scrutiny: ;)
 
I'm not a member of a real "club", but when we shoot skeet in the summer, everyone brings a few beers in a cooler. Ofcourse they stay there untill we are finished shooting and everyone enjoys a couple after it gets dark.
 
And I was under the..

impression that the majority of this list thought zero tolerance rules were a bad thing.

Goose, gander...hmmmm, different sauces.

migoi
 
Cookie-cutter rules rarely hold up to the rule of logic.
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Hmmm...I fail to see the logic or need to have alcohol at a range. If you want drink after a shoot, that's great just do it at designated watering hole. I suppose the 0.08% blood alcohol level is too "cookie-cutter as well.:rolleyes: The weakest link will break and it only takes one weak link (ie can't hold their liquor) to takes things down a dangerous road. Why risk it?
 
If it's a range or a backyard, it's not the best idea.

As for the 'message' it sends about the shooting sports, that's up for debate. A person out for us as a group will find something that they are unhappy about and it will become the center of their universe no matter what.

Larger clubs really have the most problem I would bet.
 
For my local club, the issue is twofold. First you have all the issues brought up here already, and second you have the insurance company.

The company that insures our range offered to jack up the rates astronomically if alcohol is allowed on premises. While I enjoy shooting and good beer, I am not interested in doubling my membership dues to have the opportunity to buy beer after shooting.

That said, it is fun to blast a bunch of clays, then put the guns away and have a few beers. That is something I do when shooting with my cousin on his property, and not at the range. Also after the beers start, the shooting is done and it becomes time to play with the bonfire :evil:.
 
I think that the moral of this story is reponsibility. A warm day, some trigger time, a beer to wet your whistle, what more could a man ask for. I know Raquel Welch...but I'm being realistic, how about Pam Anderson.
 
I personally feel like alcohol has no place at a shooting range. If not for the simple fact that if an accident of any kind happened, all the MSM headlines would read "Drunken Redneck Shootself at Gun Range." Then would paint a picture of stumbling drunks at the shooting range falling over themselves and shooting eachother.

You and I know that is not the truth but Little Johnny PC and his flock of anti's wouldn't.
 
My club in Cape Town allowed alcohol after a certain hour - but once you had a single alcoholic drink, you weren't permitted back onto the range until the next day. Worked fine.
 
Most gun clubs prohibit alcohol consumption on the premisis totally, and some will allow it during special events, when the range is closed and weapons handling is verbotten. The fact of the matter is, it is possible for someone to put a few down, then decide to go pop a few more off, and have some sort of accident. Sounds like a nasty problem waiting to happen.

Your insurance comapny may also have a fit for the same reason. Alcohol= higher risk. Higher risk= higher premiums or even no insurance.

The other problem is that in our society, if someone put a couple down at the range and had an alcohol related accident on his way home, I bet the vic. would go after the club, or try to, especially if the club was supplying the beer.
 
Alcohol at a Gun Club

I have been to a couple clubs, and while the rules stated on the wall distinctly state no alcohol permitted, some people still brought their own. This made me VERY uncomfortable. I didn't know these people personally, and would not know what they are like before drinking. After drinking, they were not pleasant people. The best rule of thumb is NO. Some of the clubs have specific days set aside for picnic's and alcohol at those times is fine, but I think anyone going out to shoot a few rounds should learn to restrain themselves until later. It's not like you are shooting for 10 or 12 hours.

Just my .01 worth

Calli
 
Doesn't Texas also have one of the craziest public intox laws in the country? I recall reading that in one of the big cities they raided a bar and arrested all the patrons for public intox, which is, supposadly, in accordance with Texas State Law. Imagine the cops raiding the club (not sure if that's considered public or not) or setting up some sort of sting just off premisis- the headlines would read something like

I also wonder what type of liquor license would be required to supply booze from the fridge?
 
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