"Benefits" of Aussie Gun Control

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If this doesn't beat all...

There's a growing problem in Australia with thugs crashing parties & beating people up (or worse). There was one instance in which the father of a young lady was attacked and beaten during her 16th birthday party at her home. The article covering that story quoted a police official as saying that they (the police) had long advised party-givers to hire security in order to prevent such occurrences.:eek:

Now, there's a move afoot to regulate parties to prevent the violence. No mention about controlling the criminals, just to bring parties under state control. WTH is wrong with this picture?

I have yet to hear of such problems here in East Texas. :)

Here's the link & latest article: (Redcliffe is a suburb of Brisbane)

http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,18284869%5E952,00.html

Gate-crashing thugs fuel calls for controls
Renee Viellaris, chief police reporter
27 February 2006

TEENAGE parties could be strictly regulated in the wake of a brutal revenge attack against a man trying to stop gatecrashers at the weekend.

Scott Singleton, 37, was stabbed seven times in the stomach and upper body after a gang returned to a Redcliffe party after they had been evicted

Mr Singleton's wife Kerri said the bloody brawl at the family party was every parent's nightmare. Her husband had been stabbed in front of their daughter and a grandparent bashed.

The State Government's Safety Youth Parties Taskforce, due to report in March, is expected to recommend tougher police controls and regulation for teenage parties.

A government survey, which asked if youth parties should be regulated, found 43 per cent of people would support the move and 49 per cent believed current laws and police powers were inadequate when parties got out of control.

Premier Peter Beattie said last night he was disgusted by the behaviour of the thugs.

"If the laws aren't tough enough then they certainly will be by the time I'm finished," he said. "I want them (the perpetrators) to feel the full force of the law."

Surgeons operated on Mr Singleton for more than three hours on Saturday night. It is believed he was stabbed by at least two men.

Mrs Singleton said her family was good friends with the teenager celebrating his 18th birthday. "It was a family event with about 30 to 40 people. Grandparents were there," she said.

Earlier during the party – at the teenager's parents' house at Woody Point – her husband had told about six men to leave. They had returned with 10 to 15 others at 11.30pm determined to do as much damage as possible.

"They went straight into the house, smashing cars and windows. It was just incredible," Mrs Singleton said. "You could tell they had no fear. My daughter stood there and watched her father being stabbed. I was on the telephone trying to get the police and my husband was lying on the ground."

The men left when they saw he was bleeding.

Mrs Singleton said some of the guests knew one of the men involved.

She did not know how the offenders knew about the party.

Police said the men bashed a grandfather on the head and one man was seen smashing the windows of a parked car. Another ripped out a letterbox and threw it at a car.

Police Minister Judy Spence said the Safety Youth Parties Taskforce was investigating ways of stopping parties getting out of control. The taskforce had obtained information from the community and stakeholders and taken information from police records.

It would recommend how young people and community safety could be protected, including educational approaches, early intervention strategies, legislative aspects and police responses.

Ms Spence said she would not pre-empt the taskforce report but would consider the recommendations.

"When incidents like this occur and people get hurt, there are long-lasting consequences," Ms Spence said.

"Most parties held by young people are safe and responsible, however some do get out of hand quickly and can result in serious consequences for everyone.

"They often require police attendance and cause distress and fear for responsible partygoers, parents, neighbours and other members of the public."

The Government website shows almost three-quarters of respondents to its surveys had been affected or knew of a youth party that had become dangerous. More than half blamed SMS, e-mail and the Internet for leading gatecrashers to venues.
 
Obviously, NO ONE should be allowed to do anything, or have anything, that might attract bad guys. Don't help a good thug go bad.
Maybe a ban on noise makers and party hats...
Marty
 
Maybe a ban on noise makers and party hats...
Dont joke thats exactly how it works.

The idea behind gun control is its so simple and strait forward, it must lower crime. When enforced and crime spikes, something else is obviously wrong because gun control always works! ...So off they go in search of #2.

First guns, then knives, then pepperspray and brass knuckles, then just about anything else that catches their eyes.
In the end the anti-guns think its the peasants fault for being unwilling victems that goad these attacks onto themselves. We dont hand over our cash fast enough or we resist too much against muggers. This causes even more violence, you see.

Its never the criminals fault for attacking people.
Its never the fault of a bad law which started the whole mess.
 
Hoplophobes!

This is like in England, where the majority of the population is so cowed, so afraid to live, they will allow damn near any abuse. Even now, how many people in Australia are standing up for their rights?

How many people in Australia are demanding they be able to use a gun to defend themseves?

I doubt the number is very many. Punks!
 
We're well down the path, Kodiaz...

"Pity our poor Aussie brothers who used to have more freedom than us and are now on the path to serfdom."
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As the tenth anniversary of the Port Arthur shootings approaches - all the major newspapers are carrying articles lamenting the fact that "there are still so many guns in the community".:banghead:

Martin Bryant was not licenced and he murdered the owner of the firearm he used in the shootings. Not one victim was armed and therefore capable of resisting.

There is no reasoning with the hoplophobes - learn from the Australian experience and vigorously defend your rights!
 
Some gun grabber idiot tried to tell me once that if the government would just make it a law that ALL homes had to have 1" thick bars on all windows, heavy duty steel security doors on the front and rear doors, each door had to have the hinges on the inside inaccessible to blow torches, heavy steel garage doors that required biometrics of some sort to open, and motion sensor activated floodlights then there would be a lot less home invasions so people wouldn't be 43x more at risk for gun accidents.

Let australia try first, tell me how it works out for them.
 
You know I'm sitting here loading a bunch of AR mags and I can't believe that 15 yrs ago when I was sending my marlin to Pa because of the NJ AWB.(.22 tube fed go figure) Australia was the most free place on earth and now you guys are having muslim riots and banning parties. Good luck guys you need it. I hope we don't go down this road.
 
I did a recent comparison to gun crimes in Australia vs the US. Bear in mind, this was WITH outlawed guns in Australia. Their percentage of gun crimes EQUALLED that of the United States. Go figure. Of course, with other tools available, the criminals will resort to them. I suppose next, Australia will ban knives.:banghead:
 
They're saying you should register the party with the cops. That means you call and say "i'm XXX from XXXX street and i'm havin a party on this day" and then the cops just drive past every few hours. The politicians from the labour party (kinda like the Democrats) still said "making it compulsory won't work" so thats good at least. Yes Australia's state currently is lamentable, I'm just hoping we get rid of jonny howard and get people thinking properly. Even my anti gun dad agreed when I said the gatecrashers should've been shot to obliteration, which is a step in the right direction.
 
Aussie Gun Control

Yes, things are pretty grim here in the Land Down Under. However, many of us are still chipping away.After the anti-gun article in Daily Telegraph (Sydney's Murdoch tabloid) I sent in following letter. It was not published, but a couple of similar ones were, along with part of a rebuttle from Shooters Party Parliamentary Member, John Tingle.
"Reference to the Port Arthur Massacre (Editorial, Daily Telegraph, Feb 20th, 2006), having been carried out by “a deranged madman”, points to that event having highlighted serious failings in Australia’s Mental Health Services. There was never any government inquiry or study into the Port Arthur murders; P.M.Howard’s claiming it was a “Gun Problem” was an ill considered, knee-jerk reaction. Turning it into an issue of “Gun Control” simply diverted attention from the real problems of diagnosis and treatment of those with serious mental illnesses.

Similarly, the murder of two students at Monash University in 2002 was exploited by Howard who forced through bans on certain handguns. The Chinese student accused of those murders was found by the court to be “unfit to stand trial, because of a serious mental illness”.

At the recent COAG meetings, Howard has at last accepted that Australia has a serious problem with the diagnosis and treatment of the mental ill.

But Howard has already wasted the past 10 years!

Taxpayers’ funds in excess of $1 billion have so far been wasted in the name of Gun Control, which could have been better used, not only for the medical system, but in fighting the REAL criminals.

The supporting article by Rhett Watson (page 9) also makes reference to the number of firearms stolen from the homes of licenced firearms owners. Implying that those legal gun-owners are somehow to blame, is rather like blaming the Banks, when a holdup occurs, because “the banks have money”.

Perhaps the Daily Telegraph could do a follow up story on how having the names and addresses of each firearms owner, along with full details of the guns they legally own, on a central Firearms Registry, has actually helped Criminals target those homes?"

National Buy a Gun Day in Australia: Saturday November 18th. 2006
"Every man should own a rifle and have cartridges in store" : Henry Lawson
For more info n the fight against Ausralia's Gun Laws see:
www.c-l-a-s-s.net
 
We'll keep on chipping, Wheels...

"The supporting article by Rhett Watson (page 9) also makes reference to the number of firearms stolen from the homes of licenced firearms owners. Implying that those legal gun-owners are somehow to blame, is rather like blaming the Banks, when a holdup occurs, because “the banks have money”.
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Isn't that the truth?:mad:

The media likes to think that victimised firearms owners are the perpetrators of the theft.

How strange is the mindset of the hoplophobes!:banghead:
 
Any ideas who's likely to run against Howard as PM? Do you know exactly how much headway is being made into getting some of these laws repealed?
 
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