Was debating the purchase of a super black eagle II, M2, or a Beretta. I was told Benelli's are a bit tough on the shoulder. You guys have any personal experience with this? Also the M2 and SBE II didn't have the rubber cheek weld or the rubber small string of arrows running down the side of the stock. Does this mean they still have the same ComforTech recoil system or not? What's the difference between the M2 and the SBE II?
Benelli shotguns kick too hard?
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ATAShooter
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I have a M2. Recoil isnt too bad. A gas operated is a tad easier on recoil than the Inertia Drive. Of all the shotguns I own, I say that the recoil is comperable to a Model 12 Winchester with a heavy Trap load, or a 870 Remington with a 3" mag. Hell, I got a Mossberg 500 that beats me harder than the Benelli, almost to the point of " To hell with that".
Virginian
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I was strongly considering an SB1, with a wood stock, until a friend lent me his. 3" was stout, but with 3-1/2" shells I would have had to have been a masochist to get one. That was the worst kicking gun I have ever shot. I swear it was worse than a Mossberg 835. And lest you think I am a total wussie, I had a 10 gauge BPS specially lightened to well under 9 pounds loaded with 2 ounce hot hand loads that I shot until the better non toxics came along and I went back to a 3" 12 gauge.
I have shot an SBE2, but not with 3-1/2" Roman candles, and the 2 piece stock does make a difference to the shoulder, but the front of the gun moving freaked me out.
They do work, and they are priced dear, but if you like it you will likely be happy with it.
A gas Beretta will kick a whole lot less in my experience. I don't remember if the M2 is gas or not.
I have shot an SBE2, but not with 3-1/2" Roman candles, and the 2 piece stock does make a difference to the shoulder, but the front of the gun moving freaked me out.
They do work, and they are priced dear, but if you like it you will likely be happy with it.
A gas Beretta will kick a whole lot less in my experience. I don't remember if the M2 is gas or not.
ATAShooter
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M2 = inertia drive
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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Had a Montefeltro that kicked like a mule----its long gone because of it.
Virginian
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The gas system on the Beretta lengthens and reduces the peak recoil pulse just like an 1100 or any other good gas system, and as a result you feel less recoil. I think a lot less recoil, but perceptions vary. The Comfortech stock allows the gun's receiver to recoil, which the inertia action requires for it to work, without requiring your shoulder to take the big hit. One guy we hunt with pads his middle finger because he says the SBE2 trigger guard bites him when the action moves. I would likely have a similar problem, because I do not grip a gun tight, but I haven't heard anyone else complaining of that.
RUT
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>>I was told Benelli's are a bit tough on the shoulder.<<
BAH!!!!
BAH!!!!
Demitrios
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I have a Benelli Nova Pump which weighs a bit less than the M2 Tactical. Recoil was a real bi**h at first but after putting a few rounds in it it's very manageable and really not so uncomfortable.
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The M4 I had was brutal.
rcmodel
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Same here on the M1 I bought new & sold at a loss in less then a year.
See this:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=6846063#post6846063
rc
See this:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=6846063#post6846063
rc
JNewell
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The things that work (IMO) against the inertia-operated Benellis are their lighter weight and the nature of the operating system. Virginian laid that out nicely. I had a Beretta 1201FP that did not stay long for the reasons others have said. I'd rather shoot pumps or doubles than that one. In the Benelli's defense, though, it is very reliable (as long as you don't hang a lot of accessories on the gun) and it runs relatively clean. Pick your poison...
rcmodel
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I missed more then one turkey shot because I flipped that little shell cut-off do-hickey in the dark and didn't realize it didn't load the first round after I set my decoys.
The mag cut-off on the A-5 is so simple even a caveman can do it in the dark!!
rc
The mag cut-off on the A-5 is so simple even a caveman can do it in the dark!!
rc
I have had two Benelli's . The first was a 12 ga. Montefeltro, it kicked hard with 3" shells and it was wood stocked. I year later I bought a 12ga SBE II with comfort tech stock. It is comfortable with all but the largest 3.5" shells. The stock makes a huge difference, but I bought it for reliability and ease of cleaning. It has seen over 10,000 rounds so far and never hiccuped. I took it to Argentina for dove shooting and over 7 days it ran flawlessly with over 750 rounds a day. All the maintenance that was required was to be wiped down each evening. Gas guns kick slightly less but it isn't noticeable when you are actually shooting.
I have a register 10.5 inch short barrel M1S90 that weighs at least a pound less than the standard model and I don't find the recoil bad at all. The inertia guns do operate better when there is more recoil. I use 2 3/4 00 buck about 75% of the time, the rest is slug. Never fire any bird shot through this gun.
Keep the stock tight against the shoulder.
Keep the stock tight against the shoulder.
Jim Watson
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I took a friend to the trap and skeet club today to familiarize her with her new Benelli Ultra Lite, a 6 lb inertia/recoil 12 gauge. I feared it might be too hard a kicker for her, but she took it in stride. I think because she had listened to me and others and selected a gun with good stock fit. It came up well and did not beat her up with heavy trap loads.
I shot it some and it certainly kicked more than my old 1100 but not as much as my Ithaca 37 pump.
I am sure that with a pheasant under the bead that a heavy field load will be no problem.
I shot it some and it certainly kicked more than my old 1100 but not as much as my Ithaca 37 pump.
I am sure that with a pheasant under the bead that a heavy field load will be no problem.
DougW
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My M1Super90 Tactical is a sweet heart. I shoot the heck out of it. Never had any issues with recoil. Only FTF's were when sitting at a bench. This shotgun will handle anything from light field to heavy mags. I shoot reduced recoil slugs and buck in addition to HV #6's normally.
VA27
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I don't care what you shoot it out of, the three and a half inch 12ga KICKS.
Unless you are a dedicated waterfowler, long range turkey hunter or live in a 'shotgun only' area the three inch is all you'll ever need and will do all you need done.
Like DougW, my M1Super90 doesn't seem to kick me any harder than anything else in 12ga. For sure it kicks less than a Browning A5.
To me the big selling points of the Benelli Super90 are ease of maintenance due to the inertia system and the simple longevity of the gun. They will take a pounding that will shake lesser guns to pieces. At least that's been MY experience.
Unless you are a dedicated waterfowler, long range turkey hunter or live in a 'shotgun only' area the three inch is all you'll ever need and will do all you need done.
Like DougW, my M1Super90 doesn't seem to kick me any harder than anything else in 12ga. For sure it kicks less than a Browning A5.
To me the big selling points of the Benelli Super90 are ease of maintenance due to the inertia system and the simple longevity of the gun. They will take a pounding that will shake lesser guns to pieces. At least that's been MY experience.
double bogey
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I have an M2, had to learn to hold it tightly to shoulder or pay the recoil price. Heavy dove loads are ok, 3" turkey loads wake you up. I haven't shot waterfowl, so I cannot say how those loads recoil. Gas guns I have owned and shot (1100, Super X mod 1) do not recoil as much, however never had shot with 3" loads. Bottom line, recoil is stiffer, but managed with a good grip on the firearm.
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I have the Benelli Vinci... doesn't kick bad at all... I use it for duck hunting mostly, so I'm all padded up anyways from the coats and shirts I wear so I won't freeze to death!
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