Beretta 92

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beretta 92?
Thinking about a Beretta 92, have had three BHPs and kept the fourth, a CZ 75 few years ago, don't care for Smiths or Glocks. For shooter 9mms I have a Radom, two Lugers and a P38, intended purpose for this would be home defense and a modern supplement to my AR for serious social work. Never have fired one, have located an excellent one in local shop for $432 out the door. Good? Bad? Ugly? Thanks

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I love Berettas for their style and looks, but hate the DA/SA trigger and slide mounted hammer drop safety. Mine's a safe queen. I (actually my wife mostly of late) shoot the Taurus PT92 instead the safety is in the right place and cocked'n'locked is the way to rock!

The price seems good, as a new Taurus will set you back ~$350 and have little resale value -- mostly because Taurus floods the market with second tier guns, the PT92 is definitely a first tier piece.

--wally.
 
The price is good. If it is in excellent condition, I'd jump on it.
The 92 FS was my first gun. It eats everything and never hiccups. More accurate than I am, though I hope to change that (me, not her). Original capacity 15 round magazines are a much better price than Glock magazines, even unused factory originals.
Look up comments by George Hill. He was an unbeliever, thinking that the negative stories were true. Then one day he picked a used one up at a great price for three gun competition. Since then he sings its praises and has bought at least one other Beretta.
 
The 92FS is an excellent weapon. Looks good. Functions flawlessy. I traded mine for a Springfield 1911A1 Milspec. Couldn't be happier.:)
 
"Look up comments by George Hill. He was an unbeliever, thinking that the negative stories were true. Then one day he picked a used one up at a great price for three gun competition. Since then he sings its praises and has bought at least one other Beretta."

Mostly right... I didn't believe the stories... I just didn't like the oversized gun shooting an undersized bullet... I didn't like the looks... I didn't like the feel... It wasn't a 1911 .45 and that was sin! Well, after years of avoidance, I gave it an honest look over. Felt the action... felt the trigger...
And something clicked.
The ugly duckling had become a swan.
Still couldn't get over the caliber thing and after awhile it was just under my skin. And the full sized 92 was not easy to get to pull CCW duty. That's when I discovered the Cougar... smaller, easier to carry, and in .45... PERFECT.

Beretta has become one of my personal favorite handgun makers. I even applied to be the next Handgun Product Manager. (Maybe one day I'll pull a Norelco deal there) If I get the job, you will see some very cool new Beretta handguns. Like an Inox mini Cougar .45 that has melt job in it, standart LTT level 1 triggers, and a flush 8 round magazine (or more). For the 92's... FRAME MOUNTED SAFETY optional. All kinds of things. Keep your fingers crossed!
 
I assume that you will be living just over the boarder and commuting into Maryland.
 
Thanks all, at the advanced age of 52 I'm trading less and shooting favorites more, have owned most standard types of all handguns and am settling on a few for the long term. Thanks again.

rk
 
My only real complaint is about the new INOX models. The matte-silvery front sights on a matte-silvery slide, that needs to be changed. If the front sight can't be dovetailed, at least make it black with a white dot.

Also, the Compact L type M needs a real push.
 
It already has been taken care of. The Brigadier slide has a dovetailed front sight.
 
Heck, you just got my vote. No fancy campaign speaches needed.

Now about getting an entry level .22 LR with decent sights into the line-up of one part of the conglomerate . . . :evil:
 
Oops:eek: ! Forgot to put in the word rifle. One of the Beretta companies need to put out a low cost, entry level rifle. No the carbine kit does not count.
Now that you mention the Neo, a decent trigger would be nice. I mean, my Buckmark has a trigger that puts many centerfires to shame.
 
How about putting the frame mounted safety back on the 92 and giving it a dovetailed frontsight?
 
Frame Mounted Safties

Okay, I have a question.

On the Taurus guns, the safety is also a decocker. That is, up is safe, middle is fire, down is decock.

Are the frame-mounted Berettas like this?

Bad idea, in my opinion. The reason is this. If you ever need to draw the gun for a serious situation, you're probably going to be shaken up. You might very well push the lever past fired, down to the decock position, deocking the gun and losing any advantage of the single action first shot.

Furthermore, according to something I read on one of John Farnam's quips, the Taurus can't fire if you're holding the lever down in the decock position.

A Beretta 92 with a frame mounted safety needs to have either a separate decocker, or no decocker at all, like the CZ-75. Some people get their knickers in a twist at the thought of manually lowering a hammer on a live chamber, though.

Personally, I disagree with Mr. Farnam that DA/SA guns are the worst thing ever. I have one, and while the changing trigger pull from the first to second shot can be a little tricky, it's nothing that training can't fix. I certainly don't agree with him that DAO automatics are better than DA/SA, especially with the horribly long, heavy DA trigger pull most autos have. (I fired a Beretta 9000 DAO; the ownwer swore it had a lightened trigger, but the thing made my CZ and my S&W revolver feel like hand-fitted custom jobs.)
 
92 is a good choice

I own a 92FS, got it on the cheap with 2 hi-caps for $250. Love the gun, for plinking there is nothing better. The gun has no muzzle flip whatsoever, and hardly any felt recoil. I am not a fan of the 9mm at all. The Beretta 96
however is a BMF. Thats the best .40 I've shot other than a Sig. If you can get one for $500 or so go for it. Factory pre-bans aern't too exspensive either...
 
Okay, I have a question.

On the Taurus guns, the safety is also a decocker. That is, up is safe, middle is fire, down is decock.

Are the frame-mounted Berettas like this?

Bad idea, in my opinion. The reason is this. If you ever need to draw the gun for a serious situation, you're probably going to be shaken up. You might very well push the lever past fired, down to the decock position, deocking the gun and losing any advantage of the single action first shot.

Furthermore, according to something I read on one of John Farnam's quips, the Taurus can't fire if you're holding the lever down in the decock position.
Click to expand...

Thats why you look for the older Taurus PT-92 that don't have the decocker. Up is safe, down is fire!
 
I still have my first 92fs.

That said, if I go for another full sized 9mm, it will probbaly be a Sig 226. The 92s are very nice, but the 226s are just a smidgen nicer. Used ones are not that expensive, and the mags are not horribly expensive either.
 
The Beretta 9000S is down for off safe and up for decock. A definite improvement over the Taurus system for the reasons mentioned.

Don't know as to how many of Beretta's other guns with frame mounted safeties also have this feature. I know the .380 Model 86 does not.

In my experience the Taurus system is only a potential problem if you let your thumb ride the safety as part of the grip. It really takes a lot of down force and motion to activate it. I used to shoot this way (thumb resting on the safety) and did have the gun decock under recoil a few times so I changed to a more conventional grip.

--wally.
 
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