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What is a "WIDE BODY" Beretta, Tomcat. I've seen this terminology and I know it's not a model name.
Beretta, Tomcat ??????
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I am no Beretta expert by any means. But I do have a Tomcat (Inox). (LOL) As I understand it....: Early models had thinner slides to keep size, width, and weight down. Beretta didn't expect people to actually shoot the Tomcat for practice a whole lot. To be carried a lot, shot very little. Early models seemed to have 2 problems stemming from the fact that people actually did shoot them to practice with them. There was some breakage on the early models and some reliability issues because the slide did not have enough weight and mass to reliably feed and eject rounds (they have no extractor). Sooo....Beretta beefed up the slide making it thicker and heavier to resolve these issues. So as I understand it...people with the early models began calling the newer models the "widebody." I believe all new production models would be called widebody...particularly the Inox (stainless) model like I have (it is the heaviest of the models).
BTW...mine is great. As long as I keep a firm grips (no limp wrist) it is absolutely reliable. And the accuracy is quite surprising.
BTW...mine is great. As long as I keep a firm grips (no limp wrist) it is absolutely reliable. And the accuracy is quite surprising.
Define "stiff." (don't know how to use those smilies things..or would insert one here).
I really like the pop up barrel. If I need to decock when loaded (without a built in decocker) I can simply pop the barrel up moving the live round out of the way. If I need to unload (round out of the firing chamber), simply pop the barrel and remove round. Very simple. There is no slide hold open so you must count your shots. Second mag would require manually racking the slide should speed be an issue. Cocking hammer makes racking slide easier. DO NOT rack slide to EJECT rounds. There is no ejector and this would be really really bad. Does not like to be dry fired because as I understand this causes broken firing pins (seems to be an issue here where in many other hand guns it is not). At 10 yards if I can't put it in the X ring..it is not the Tomcat's fault (as far as I would probably shoot with this). Some people do not like the weight or width but I do because I think this is what lends to its accuracy and makes it pleasant to shoot. Have had only two failures..failure to feed and this was because I got lazy and got loose with the grip..though I don't need to strangle it, simply firm hold. Does not appear ammo sensitive or bullet shape sensitive. Ballistics on paper are weak (of course) but ballistic data does not account for what I call the human factor. People do not like to bleed, be in pain, or otherwise be harmed (even bad guys)...survival instinct so to speak. Consider it one of the best hand gun investments I personally have made because where I would otherwise not carry a firearm (for whatever reason to include laziness) I can drop the Tomcat into a pocket (with pocket holster) and have something I trust to work. I carry it with Winchester Silvertips as it appears that this is what Beretta recommens..and they work great in the Tomcat.
How's that?
I really like the pop up barrel. If I need to decock when loaded (without a built in decocker) I can simply pop the barrel up moving the live round out of the way. If I need to unload (round out of the firing chamber), simply pop the barrel and remove round. Very simple. There is no slide hold open so you must count your shots. Second mag would require manually racking the slide should speed be an issue. Cocking hammer makes racking slide easier. DO NOT rack slide to EJECT rounds. There is no ejector and this would be really really bad. Does not like to be dry fired because as I understand this causes broken firing pins (seems to be an issue here where in many other hand guns it is not). At 10 yards if I can't put it in the X ring..it is not the Tomcat's fault (as far as I would probably shoot with this). Some people do not like the weight or width but I do because I think this is what lends to its accuracy and makes it pleasant to shoot. Have had only two failures..failure to feed and this was because I got lazy and got loose with the grip..though I don't need to strangle it, simply firm hold. Does not appear ammo sensitive or bullet shape sensitive. Ballistics on paper are weak (of course) but ballistic data does not account for what I call the human factor. People do not like to bleed, be in pain, or otherwise be harmed (even bad guys)...survival instinct so to speak. Consider it one of the best hand gun investments I personally have made because where I would otherwise not carry a firearm (for whatever reason to include laziness) I can drop the Tomcat into a pocket (with pocket holster) and have something I trust to work. I carry it with Winchester Silvertips as it appears that this is what Beretta recommens..and they work great in the Tomcat.
How's that?
By "stiff" I mean trying to pull the hammer back felt like trying to pull the proverbial sword from a stone. Racking the slide was not as difficult as the Taurus PT-22 I have. I have no experience with the DA/SA trigger pull, as I've not fired one nor had snapcaps available to try.
I put smilies in just by typing them ; + ) =
. The scripting for this board is doing the rest.
jmm
I put smilies in just by typing them ; + ) =
. The scripting for this board is doing the rest.jmm
First shot if in double action...is exactly as you describe. Tough pull..only thing I do not like. But this is not meant to be a competition/target gun. I do not think that would matter in a self defense situation...trigger pull and feel is not even going to register. Though it is definately a good idea to practice double action to be sure.
I have a "wide body" INOX. Very reiliable for me. Many here have had problems with the Tomcat. I think these were the older models. Don't dry fire them. The firing pin will break.
I like mine but I think a Kel-Tec P3AT is better in many ways particulary for a carry weapon. Much lighter and bigger bullet.
If you live in the PRK, you may not have a choice. As I said, my Tomcat has been 100% reliable. Nicely made and finished as are most Beretta's. They are a little heavy to carry as a pocket pistol IMHO. So if you have to go with IWN holster, get a larger caliber.
I like mine but I think a Kel-Tec P3AT is better in many ways particulary for a carry weapon. Much lighter and bigger bullet.
If you live in the PRK, you may not have a choice. As I said, my Tomcat has been 100% reliable. Nicely made and finished as are most Beretta's. They are a little heavy to carry as a pocket pistol IMHO. So if you have to go with IWN holster, get a larger caliber.
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