Bessie is getting ready.

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I like having the shot-cup inside the paper tube, as it makes re-loading faster, and more simple. And, a 1.75-2" shot load is longer than the 12gauge shot cups. And the cup is a loose fit in the bore, but with a layer of paper it's a really nice perfect friction fit. Not that that improves patterns, as far as I know, but I like it. And it's not like one needs a fast reload after shooting at a turkey, it's either dead or you missed, and it's gone. !! So you have all day to wipe the bore and reload. On the other hand, all I need to carry is the shot cartridges, some powder cartridges, and that's it. One of those Russian double ammo pouches on the belt carries it all.

Having said all that, when hunting grouse, often you can shoot one, and a couple of others stay put, wander around, and generally act really dumb and say: "shoot me too please", in which case a fast second shot can come in handy. For grouse, an ounce of shot, no shot-cup, and 90 grains of Pixie dust works fine. In fact, if they are sitting on a tree limb, or very close, I'll usually just pull my pistol, whistle Dixie, and get them with a shot load, and save the Pixie dust and that ounce of shot for longer range, or attempt to shoot one in the air, which I've never done. (With Bess)
 
Here's the Whitmore: Inlaid with gold and silver (latter tarnished black). has big gold arrow pointing the way. Took a number off birds with handmade wads.
 

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SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! The Bess is beautiful and I sure love the hammer on the Whitmore.
 
I've read and heard that Revolutionary War era Brown Bess ex-military muskets were commonly sporterized and used as shotguns in America, both before and after Independence.

Nice to see a modern replica put to good use.
 
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! The Bess is beautiful and I sure love the hammer on the Whitmore.
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Heres a closeup. Still trying to track down info on it. Made by Nathaniel Whitmore East Cambridge Mass for J. C, Lieba (on the presentation plate). The gold arrow has small silver shot inlaid behind it as it to remind user which end does what, 2 straight sets of trap 24/24 was common with 70G 2f and 1 3/4 dram no 7, used same but # 6 on pheasant,
 
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Oh man yer killin' me. Imagine the time it took just to make the hammers on that thing.
 
Oh man yer killin' me. Imagine the time it took just to make the hammers on that thing.
Whitmore made custom rifles and shotguns for use as presentation gifts. US Grant got one, The work is amazing and on par with the finest German makers. Paid very little for it but was offered what was a large amount for it some 30 years ago. Stopped shooting it altogether and unsure what its worth today. Whoever "J.C. Leiba" was he must have been very important, very rich or both. Will go to RIA soon,
 
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