Roc_my_tims
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Prices are different in every state. But is a rem 700 out of the $600 range now?
Best 308 for $600'ish?
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Savage 110 was my first centerfire rifle (30-06). It was accurate, but the lock time was a bit long, and the bolt was a bit sloppy. Remington actions have been very accurate over the years and even the cheaper models are quite good. Newer, fancy actions are well-made and the market is flooded with great actions these days.
Primarily changing from the more traditional large single piece striker pin spring to the smaller two piece springs and ultralight striker of the Axis.
Its not necessarily a bad system, but ive read enough instances of miss fires in the axis to not be thrilled with them being used in the 110.
It does have the advantage of reducing the bolt lift to being similar to other designs now tho....but again at the expense of stored energy.
Im also not a huge fan of some of the 110s having smaller ports, tho it dosent seem to be universal. Friend if mine has a .308 with a small port that works well enough, but now suffers from the same issues all the other little port guns do....one of the things i liked about the savage 110 is the actions were long and open.
This is just my opinion of course, and if a someone's happy with the 110 they have or are looking at i dont think they are a BAD choice.
Small port receivers are not my favorite at my bench for single loading. Not a savage axis fan at all. But some how I've ended up with a .223 pink camo, .243 with cabelas camo, two .308 from Walmart. All on sale with rebate. One wood stock 30 06 for testing garand ammo. All shoot way better that I figured for me and the grandkids. The 30 06 and the .243 are true sub moa rifles. None have ever had store bought ammo touch them. All make strong dimples in every primer as I'm a habitual primer inspector. That's personal experience not something I've read. When ever I pass info it's always what I've done or experienced my self. Any mass produced rifle purchase is luck of the draw. When a cheep firearm shoots better than my custom model 70 or some I've assembled it's sorta funny.
Turkeytider
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Thank you, sir.
Ive had a dozen or so savages all but the newest being the older designs, and worked on 3 or 4 Axis.
Ive not seen a similar firing pin design in any other rifles.
My experience with those rifles lends preference to the older design.
I also read and pay attention to whats posted on the Internet and what i hear elsewhere as that will often show a trend i wouldnt otherwise see.
Put those two things together and that causes me to question the system.....Even tho ive not personally had an issue of the Axis ive worked on, or the 110 with the same firing system.
I can also name a bunch if things i dont like about pretty much any rifle design, i dont think any ive used at this point are perfect for me, tho some are close and most Im comfortable living with or fixing.
Just my personal opinion.
Very welcome!
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5-600 here for an ADL.
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45/30-06OKIE
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I second this. I had two different patriots that both shot very well especially for their price! I culled down calibers so I sold them off. Their walnut is actually pretty good quality IMHO. And I was impressed with the strata camo synthetic stock as well. Good all around hunting rifles!
ThomasT
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I have owned two Savage Axis rifles and have been impressed with them so far. I sold the plastic stock 270 and bought a wood stock 243. I really like the wood stock. It just feels so much more solid than the plastic stock even though the plastic stock was way better than the Savage 223 I had over 10 years ago. I found this on gunbroker.
Or this. And if you click on the banner the price is $348 and if you are outside of California there are no sales tax.
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Or this. And if you click on the banner the price is $348 and if you are outside of California there are no sales tax.
SAVAGE ARMS AXIS 308WIN BL/SYN 22" - Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1023308372
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Bearcat1982
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CVA Cascade veil tac is on my want this
rondaxe
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I have a Savage Hog Hunter in .308 and it is a very accurate rifle. I handload and if I do my part it shoots sub-moa at 100yds, and I'm 67 yrs. old so that's saying something about the gun.
luv2safari
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The Ruger American, hands down!
They are one of the most accurate production rifles at any price. We have about 40 guns total in the extended family, and three of those, 22-250, 243, 308 are Ruger Americans. They are the three most consistently accurate rifles of the bunch. They're also reliable and tough since they re-designed the detachable magazine.
I'm a blue steel and walnut traditional gun curmudgeon, but I admit the ugly Ruger is a winner.
luv2safari
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Savage= always accurate right out of the box. Good choice.
luv2safari
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The one I shot had a great trigger that broke like glass.Although the rebate and great Euro-Optic sale is over, you can still get a CZ600 Alpha for under $600. (Sale and rebate put it at under $400 delivered).
It checks most of your boxes. The trigger is very, very good. I've only shot mine with 150NBT reloads that I have left over from my FAL and it's sub MOA with those. It comes with a .75MOA accuracy guarantee (with match ammo) and I think it will do it easily.
luv2safari
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I'm curious to see how you like the Turkish Savage/Stevens gun. It's not designed like the traditional Savage/Stevens.
Also, I just got a Mossberg Patriot 243 and am loving it for the $345.00 I spent, plus tax & shipping. I like my Ruger Predator better, but only a little better, and I Really Like the Ruger.
ThomasT
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Will the new mags fit the older American guns? I have read a lot of bad about the mags on the older American models like the mags spreading open if left loaded for a long time.
Part of the reason for me asking is because of all the negative reviews on the "New" Ruger mags. And the reviews on the Ruger mags is what caused me to buy a Savage 243 instead of another Ruger American rifle. The only Ruger American I would consider would be one of the Ranch Rifles that take the Mini 30 mag or takes the Ar-15 mags. Read the reviews.
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luv2safari
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Thomas...Will the new mags fit the older American guns? I have read a lot of bad about the mags on the older American models like the mags spreading open if left loaded for a long time.
Part of the reason for me asking is because of all the negative reviews on the "New" Ruger mags. And the reviews on the Ruger mags is what caused me to buy a Savage 243 instead of another Ruger American rifle. The only Ruger American I would consider would be one of the Ranch Rifles that take the Mini 30 mag or takes the Ar-15 mags. Read the reviews.
I got a grandson an American 243 from WallyWorld eight years ago and gave him a second magazine two years ago. He tends to fill them up and let them sit, one in the gun and one in a drawer. We have had not one problem with them.
The easy solution is don't fill a magazine up and let it sit around. I can't see where having two in the magazine if you wanted it loaded would cause any problem.
ThomasT
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Yep good advice. I gave the Ruger 243 to my son and I was hoping to get him at least one spare mag to go with the gun. Now I am not sure if its worth the risk to buy one of the redesigned mags and the original mags apparently aren't offered anymore. Frankly I do not like detachable mags. I like mags built right into the gun like has been done for decades. Detachable mags are just a cost cutting measure for the gun maker at the expense of the purchaser.
Space Ghost
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$600 is kinda almost an entry level (or used) budget, but we've all been there. (Hell, I still am most of the time.)
For that money I'd look at the Mossberg MVP, Ruger American, or Savage 110.
And yeah... I'd bee looking for a bargain in the used rifle category as well.
As much as I'd like to say up the budget for a better rifle... I'm gonna say keep a good portion of the budget for quality glass instead.
The average rifle will normally outshoot the average shooter anyway... but you HAVE to see the target clearly.
Then... you can learn to shoot better.
For that money I'd look at the Mossberg MVP, Ruger American, or Savage 110.
And yeah... I'd bee looking for a bargain in the used rifle category as well.
As much as I'd like to say up the budget for a better rifle... I'm gonna say keep a good portion of the budget for quality glass instead.
The average rifle will normally outshoot the average shooter anyway... but you HAVE to see the target clearly.
Then... you can learn to shoot better.
Ruger standardised on the AICS (effectively the Gen2s are gussied up preds) for the short actions.Will the new mags fit the older American guns? I have read a lot of bad about the mags on the older American models like the mags spreading open if left loaded for a long time.
Part of the reason for me asking is because of all the negative reviews on the "New" Ruger mags. And the reviews on the Ruger mags is what caused me to buy a Savage 243 instead of another Ruger American rifle. The only Ruger American I would consider would be one of the Ranch Rifles that take the Mini 30 mag or takes the Ar-15 mags. Read the reviews.
Youd have to change the stock of an early rotary to a newer one that had the aics magwell to make it work....and then the actions arnt wide enough for all the aics mags available.
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AJC1
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If your enough of a shooter to hand load, I'd look for a platform that uses prefit barrels. The savages are easy swaps and the rem 700 takes a Ramage modification easily. That only limits you to short action cartridges and that's not hugely limiting.
