Best Home "Black" Finish

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schmeky

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I have a used hi-cap 1911 on the way and I want to apply the best black finish that will be highly corrosion resistant. I can do the following in my shop:

  • Hot Salt Blue
  • Parkerize
  • Spary N' Bake (Duracoat)
  • Electroless Nickel

Only 2 of these offer what I consider a high degree of corrosion reisistance, the Electroless Nickel and the Duracoat. I have searched for something like Melonite (had a 1911 frame done in Melonite a year ago and really like it), but nothing exists that's even remotely comparable. I don't use a holster, and just range shoot.
 
i like the gunkote myself. some are more keen on duracoat i know. all about the same i guess, but i think gunkote does better at higher temps.
 
WPG,

I want a "home" finish. I've used Black T, and it is soft and very easy to scratch and abrade, based on my experience on one of my personal 1911's.
 
I like Gun kote but you say you can hot blue it so that would be my first choice. Hot blue is very corrosion resistant if cared for(so is parkerizing). The higher the polish (for hot blue) the better the rust resistance.
 
Don't spray schmeky!

I have no interest in spray finishes. Your experiences with some kind of parkerizing or black oxide finish will serve *me* much better. :)


-Matt
 
At the end of the day, sprays are just paint to me. I'll take a polished and blued thanks.

Anyone know what you get if you polish and parkerize?...
 
I think I have battery acid in my sweat; if not wiped down quickly my pistols tend to rust fast. A high polish blue reduces the surface porosity of the steel providing improved corrosion protect, however this also shows every tiny scratch and print.

I was wondering if I could "black" something over electrless nickel, since the EN provides excellent corrosion resistance by itself.
 
As far as Cerakote being "better" than Duracoat, I think that comes down to what you want. From what I gather, Cerakote is an epoxy/ceramic mix, and Duracoat is an epoxy based paint.

Cerakote is "harder" where Duracoat is more "elastic". But for best results the surface prep is the key for either one.
 
I would suggest that you Parkerize it first then use Gunkote it is better then Duracoat and better then Cerakote but the Parkerization will help with the rust and corrosion resistance
 
There is no such thing as a "best firearms finish"! This one is better for looks, that one is better for wear and the other one is better for corrosion resistance. A lot of firearms finishes are the same as the "other one" but re-packaged under their own label. One of the well known ones is not even a firearms finish. It's made for dumptrucks and bulldozers but their advertising would have you think that it's the best thing for guns since smoke-less powder.

Another factor is how well the particular finish will burnish. If it won't burnish at all, it can't be used on internals.

Tests are designed to simulate real world conditions but at an accelerated pace. Who's going to subject their firearm to 5% salt water at 800 degrees mixed with pure oxygen and sprayed on for X number of hours? But the idea is that that particular test will show how well it will withstand the sea air on your boat.

If you're looking for corrosion resistance, look at Gunkote 2400 Series over Zinc Parkerizing. Magnesium parkerizing works well too but the Zinc based stuff is a little more coarse and provides better adhesion. I recently saw that Cerrakote did better at a few tests but I'll stick with Gunkote over Parkerizing for now.

If you want to do a simple test at home to see how well "their finish" does against "that finish", coat a metal part (NOT Aluminum) and drop it in a can of Acetone or gasoline or concentrated Chlorine overnite. The next day, pull the parts out and see what they look like. If you tried that with duracoat, the finish will be 100% gone. If you used Gunkote, the finish will be 100% unaffected. Not a realistic test, you say? Some firearms cleaners and lubes contain Acetone. Gasoline does sometimes splash and you can smell the Chlorine in some pools from a half mile away. Keep yer powder dry, Mac.
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