Big bore..Need suggestions

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I have been reading up on big bore guns and well im thinking its time to get one.Im hoping for any suggestions on what to get.All the big bores i have seen have been bolt action so i guess im stuck with bolt action.I wish there were some semi's but i have yet to see one.
I was thinking for a long time going with .416 rigby but then somebody said .458 lott ..I dont know what i want even.Some people mentioned the 45-70 to me and im not to sure about that.My primary purpose for this is just to have a big bore rifle that i would shoot mabye 15 times a year at most.And to have a rifle to kill zombie Grizzly bears that take over the streats.

Oh i almost forgot .I would like this gun to be under 1000 bucks :)
 
I don't have many suggestions as I don't have experience with big bores.
You should really decide exactly what you want the gun for.
Also, you're not completely limited to bolt actions, you can get break actions in big bores and the .45-70 Gov is most often found in lever actions.
 
Well I'm in the same boat as you. One thing you need to consider is the cost of ammo. I have choose to go with the .458 Lott because I can shoot the cheaper win mag shells in it. I should have it on order sometime this week or next. The dealer's supplier is out right now.
 
Chet, For your purpose a Ruger #1 in 45-70 Govt. would serve you well.
A classic single shot with plenty of power for zombie griz. It's also a fine hunting rifle with the addition of a low power scope in Q.D. rings and a decent sling.
No disrespect intended, but to me shooting a .458 Win. Mag. in .458 Lott chamber is just not right. Sort of like putting regular gas in a high compression engine to me. :neener:
 
One thing to keep in mind?

A box of factory .375 H&H or .458WM costs about $40.

A box of factory .416 Rigby costs about $120.00!If you do some searching you can find it cheaper-but not much.
 
the 375 h&h is perfect for what you want. agree w/ the previous suggestion to look into cz's line-up. winchester 70's in 375 run in the $800 range, too. a little more expensive than cz, but a little nicer on the finish work.

you won't see these kinds of guns in an auto - an auto would just get beat up and come unglued under the recoil forces. you won't find any in a lever, either, for the same reason, unless you consider marlin's big bores to be true big bores (i don't because they offer far less power than the traditional bolt guns).

anyway, cz, winchester, and remington (possibly ruger, too, i don't know) will all offer 375's for under $1000 w/ cz being the least expensive.
 
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I have two preferred calibers, 375 H&H and the 416 Rigby. Both will do the job on big bears, buffalo or semis. As noted the 375 more cost effective. You will not be shooting hundreds of rounds through either of these guns, so even though the 416 is expensive ammo, how much will you really shoot. Of the two for all around gun I would go with the 375. You can load it with lighter projectiles and you have a great elk gun or load with 300 gr and shoot anything on the planet. As for manufactures I like the Rugers, but all the other mentioned will work. Alot of big bore folks shy away from some of the winchesters because of some feeding problems. Some guns are push feed and some are controlled feed but that is another argument between gun owners. If you want to check out big bores, go to the forum on Accuratereloading.com. Lot of great guys and a lot of opinions there, but most of the guys there are shooters.
 
Marlin 1895G Guide Gun.

5 shots of .45-70 in a small package. Effective as far away as you can see things.


If you can't kill it with 5 rounds of .45-70, you shouldn't have pissed it off to begin with... it'll certainly do a bear.
 
chetrogers:

Unless you're specifically looking for a "new" rifle, you might want to look for a Remington 7400 semi-automatic in .35 Whelen. The .35 Whelen was also chambered in Remington's 7600 pump rifle. You might also want to look at Browning. They offer the BAR in .300 & .338 Winchester Magnum.

Sam
 
Thanks guys for the suggestions.Im curious lets say you have a grizzly bear 30 ft from you and he is growling and making his way towards you what would you rather have in your hands if you either could have a .375 h&h or 45-70.Assuming you will be shaking and mite night get a nice heart shot ..Let me know what and why you would chose one or the other.Thanks
 
I got a 375 H&H last summer, a CZ550 American Magnum. I would pick it for a close bear encounter, but the 45-70 would also be a fine choice with a sturdy bullet.

I think the 375 H&H is more versatile than the 45-70 or 458 Win Mag. The Hornaday 270 grain spire points are advertised at 2870 fps and would be a good long range load having ballistics similar to a 270 Win or a 30-06. The 45-70 bullets are all low ballistic coefficient and sturdy loads may be a little above 2000fps. The 45-70 should be ok out to 150 yds or so, butit is not a 300 yd capable cartridge like the 375 H&H.
 
This one's semi :D :D :D

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EDIT: blows your budget a little though. A controled-feed .375H&H would be a great gun. CZ 550 I hear great things about.
 
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