Bolt Action .22 Suppressor Host

[giggitygiggity]

I am looking at getting either the CZ 455 Tacticool or Ruger American Rimfire as they both come with threaded barrels and I plan to use the rifle as a suppressor host. Between these two options, which would you choose and why? The most important attributes to me are reliability and accuracy. Thanks.

 

[CraigC]

The Ruger American is a great rifle for its price point. They're a light so it depends on how you intend to use it. This is my bang around pest control rifle setup with a micro red dot.



Here's my .17HMR model in a Boyd's sporter stock.



Savage also has some great threaded .22LR boltguns. Here's the fluted 16" model dropped into a Boyd's tacticool stock. It now wears a Burris Rimfire 3-9x and is more of a precision rifle. Both guns have been wearing new AAC Element 2's since yesterday.

 

[giggitygiggity]

Those are all some great-looking rifles. I was considering that Savage, but it sounds like it come with a cheap factory stock and people have had issues with the magazines. I've also been told that the CZ455 is more accurate than the Savage. How does your Ruger's accuracy compare? I too have an AAC Element 2.

 

[Varminterror]

CZ every day and twice on Sunday. And that's coming from a Ruger fanboy. The 452 and 455 are simply a more accurate rifle. Ahead of the Savage's as well. I'm not a fan of foreign rifles when I can avoid it, but when I want to win, it's a 452 or 455, not a Ruger or Savage.

 

[jmorris]

From those two it would be the CZ.

 

[Olympus]

If you're wanting a classic look with a walnut stock, then definitely CZ. If you want a polymer stock, then I'd have to say the Ruger. With the CZ, you'll want to add a YoDave trigger kit but with the Ruger, you simply remove one spring from the factory trigger and you get an amazingly crisp and SUPER light trigger pull. The Rimfire Central forum has the instructions for the spring removal. It's super simple and all you have to do is slip the spring back in and you get your factory trigger pull back again. I've had two CZ 455 and they are a great gun, but the trigger kit is needed in my opinion. But for a polymer stock, the Ruger with the spring removal mod is WAY nicer and just as accurate. My Ruger with the spring removed is under 1lb and passes the bump test all day long.

 

[cologuy]

Go with the CZ. If you get the suppressor-ready version, I think your only choice is the synthetic stock. I didn't like the texture of mine when I got it, but that's easy to correct. A sweet little rifle, more accurate than I am by a long shot, and with a suppressor and standard velocity or subsonic ammo it's definitely a hoot! Other people on the line don't even know I'm shooting until I work the bolt.

 

[Cannibul]

I went with the Ruger. It's way more accurate than I am on a day to day basis.

Magazines baby!

I may at some point restock it since I'm a knuckle dragger and all factory guns are short for me.

 

[greyling22]

I went with the cz, except I got the non-tactacool version. Lighter, thinner barrel, $100 cheaper. My plan is to sell the plastic stock off it, and the $100 Savings and take that money toward a replacement stock. I'm thinking Boyds provarmint laminate or get a custom fancy walnut stock made. (My pennies will of course go farther with Boyd)

As far as the trigger, mine did not need the yodave kit. All I had to do was clip the trigger spring 2 coils and I have about a 1lb creep free clean trigger.

Ruger mags sure are cheaper and more plentiful though.......

 

[CB900F]

Fella's;

I'm not into silencers (I'm old school, don't care what the term of the day is for 'em) but do have CZ's. Did have a Savage bolt-.22 & it went down the road when I found out about CZ's. I also used to have a Ruger 77/22 & don't miss it a bit. The CZ's win the accuracy award hands down far as I'm concerned. I also shot NRA .22 competition in my youth, & went to National Juniors one year. My favorite .22 varmint gun is a CZ452 American. With it's preferred ammo, Winchester X22LRPP, it's MOA accurate at 100 yards & that distance is what it's zero'd to.

The YoDave kit is all of about $25.00 & will do more than one gun. If you're at all handy, & have minimal home tools it's easy. Rimfirecentral has videos also. However, in many cases it's not needed. Merely backing off the adjustment screw on the trigger spring satisfies many folks

900F

 

[CraigC]

The Savage is not much over $200 so buying a Boyd's stock is not even going to get you to CZ money. It also has a nice matte finish, fluted barrel and oversized bolt knob. The newest one above runs very smooth, especially for its modest price. I've been shooting them for 10yrs to the tune of thousands of rounds and never had an issue with magazines. Although I do like the Ruger magazines better, mostly because they fit flush, double the capacity and have many good aftermarket magazines available. My CZ is extremely accurate but no more than my Savages, of which I have three. I have yet to fully wring out the Ruger but initial testing has been very good. Factory triggers on all three are very good. IMHO, it's mostly a matter of which you like best.

Those are all some great-looking rifles. I was considering that Savage, but it sounds like it come with a cheap factory stock and people have had issues with the magazines. I've also been told that the CZ455 is more accurate than the Savage. How does your Ruger's accuracy compare? I too have an AAC Element 2.

The CZ Tacticool comes with a black finished laminate Boyd's stock, just like that on the Savage above, not a synthetic.
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-455-va...y-22-lr-16-bbl-5-rd-mag-black-laminate-stock/

 

[CraigC]

The CZ's win the accuracy award hands down far as I'm concerned. .....With it's preferred ammo, Winchester X22LRPP, it's MOA accurate at 100 yards & that distance is what it's zero'd to.

My older MKII shoots 3/8"@50yds and 3/4" at 100yds with Wolf Match Target.

 

[The_Next_Generation]

You mentioned you wanted reliability and accuracy, for that I would choose the CZ as others have mentioned. Superior build quality, excellent accuracy, and a cult following can't all be wrong

I have a 452 Trainer, and it drives tacks. No doubt the other options do as well, but there's something about the "big rifle" quality of a CZ rimfire that gets me (and the other half of the internet) going in the morning.

 

[bamajoey]

My older MKII shoots 3/8"@50yds and 3/4" at 100yds with Wolf Match Target.

If you are consistently shooting 3/8 at 50 yds and 3/4 at 100, you need to get all of that batch of Wolf MT you can find, because it is NOT match ammo.

 

[CraigC]

If you are consistently shooting 3/8 at 50 yds and 3/4 at 100, you need to get all of that batch of Wolf MT you can find, because it is NOT match ammo.

It's been several years since I've even shot any but my results seem to be typical of the brand in an accurate rifle. Similar results out of the CZ, Clark-barreled 10/22 and Remington 541T.

 

[bannockburn]

bamajoey

If you are consistently shooting 3/8 at 50 yds and 3/4 at 100, you need to get all of that batch of Wolf MT you can find, because it is NOT match ammo.

You know, I did just that.

And please let's keep it to ourselves about the "NOT match ammo" statements; my Wolf Match Target doesn't know that it's not supposed to be that consistently accurate and reliable.

 

[Gtscotty]

I use a cz455 is a suppressor host, and would recommend it as such. I actually bought a .22lr barrel for what was originally a .17HMR and had it cut down to 16 inches and threaded locally. My 455 is quite accurate with all 3 barrels and it's nice to be able to switch at will. With the .22 barrel mounted, it's compact and silly quiet.

 

[minutemen1776]

I was considering that Savage, but it sounds like it come with a cheap factory stock

Don't dismiss the Savage because of its stock. It's not as bad as people claim, except that it does not provide a proper cheek weld when using a scope. That, however, can be overcome by an inexpensive lace-on cheek pad.

 

[CB900F]

Giggity;

While both the Ruger & Savage have been known to be accurate, I think the odds of your getting an accurate gun are better with CZ. Then there's Savages's well documented magazine problems. No, not every mag, but more than enough to be a recognized problem area.

900F

 

[CraigC]

And yet I've never heard of or experienced these issues.

 

[CB900F]

Craig C;

Sir, you have now heard of them. And as a former Savage owner, I can tell you that the problem exists.

900F

 

[Dog Soldier]

My old favorite is Winchester Mdl. 52 Sporter. My current quality .22 rifles are the excellent ones made by CZ.