Bolting gun safe to wood floors

[absolutcollection]

Buying a 300 lb rsc rated safe.

I will be storing the safe on the second floor.

I have hardwood floors, but the best spot for the safe will not line up with a floor joist.

The sales rep said that it is more important to position the safe flush against the wall than try to find the floor joist.

My question is what is the best way to bolt down the safe?

The safe has only one hole in the bottom for anchoring.

Thank you in advance!

 

[tnxdshooter]

Buying a 300 lb rsc rated safe.

I will be storing the safe on the second floor.

I have hardwood floors, but the best spot for the safe will not line up with a floor joist.

The sales rep said that it is more important to position the safe flush against the wall than try to find the floor joist.

My question is what is the best way to bolt down the safe?

The safe has only one hole in the bottom for anchoring.

Thank you in advance!

Only one hole for anchoring? That won't work to well. Mine had four pre drilled holes in the bottom 3/8" in diameter. I didn't necessarily line mine up with the floor joists but it does go through the sub floor. I went to lowes and bought me 4 3/8"x3" long lag bolts. I then had my buddy come out with a drill. We drilled us a pilot hole for each screw, got them started, then he took his impact driver and drove em into the floor. Only way the safe is coming out is if someone tears my floor out.

Personally, I think I'd find me another rsc if it didn't have fours bolt holes.

 

[MEHavey]

No holes in the back of the safe?

 

[absolutcollection]

Amsec CSC1913

Just 1 hole in the bottom.

Based on research - manufacturers dont recommend bolting to the wall because it may make the bottom of the safe not flushed to the floor.

Supposedly, top priority is the connection to the floor.

I will also make sure one wall is flushed to the left of the safe.

 

[absolutcollection]

The sales rep recommended toggle anchors, but I am not sure about the strength of a toggle bolt holding a safe.

 

[oneounceload]

Place the safe on a piece of plywood sized so it can go into joists and then bolt the safe to that. If someone REALLY wants your RSC, they will get it, no matter what you do. These are to stop that teenage smash and grab guy

 

[absolutcollection]

are you suggesting to bolt the plywood to the joists and then bolt the safe thru the plywood & h/w floor?

 

[a1abdj]

The sales rep recommended

Local expert, or internet "expert"?

 

[oneounceload]

If you're concerned about your floor rating, then you need something to act like a spread footing. Otherwise find the joists for support

 

[jlr1962]

I would drill more holes in the safe and catch 2 floor joists with unistrut. Double nut the bolts from the bottom. It sounds like you have a basement or crawl space under the proposed safe location.

 

[herrwalther]

Only one hole for anchoring? That won't work to well. Mine had four pre drilled holes in the bottom 3/8" in diameter. I didn't necessarily line mine up with the floor joists but it does go through the sub floor. I went to lowes and bought me 4 3/8"x3" long lag bolts. I then had my buddy come out with a drill. We drilled us a pilot hole for each screw, got them started, then he took his impact driver and drove em into the floor. Only way the safe is coming out is if someone tears my floor out.

I guess it is more common than I thought. This thread had me look at the bottom of my safe. There are two anchoring holes in the bottom, but it came with 4 bolts. Still have to get around to anchoring mine down.

 

[Yarddog]

Use 3/4" ply wood size of safe, place where it's going & mark ply. remove safe and find at least 1 joist & srew it down. Put safe back over ply, drill hole & use long bolt were you can get 2-3 toggles on it.

That's about the strongest you'll get using 1 hole JMO ; )
Y/D

 

[absolutcollection]

Thanks for all the info.

Will use steps laid out by Yarddog!

 

[witchhunter]

If you can, add some 1/8" plate under the floor and bolt through that. Toggles are not going to help much if someone wants it. You can drill through the bottom of a safe put the holes where they will hit something.

 

[CB900F]

Absolut;

What's underneath the floor where you wish to put the safe? If it's storage or a mechanical room, that's one thing. If it's the living room, that's another. Where I'm going with this is that there are a couple of solutions to your problem if there's nothing critical under the floor you want to put the RSC on.
The AMSEC BF series are good units in & of themselves, but bolting is always a good thing to do.

900F

 

[DeepSouth]

What I did was stick a 5/8 bolt through the floor then I went under the house with a 6"x6" steel plate with a 5/8 hole in it and used locknuts to hold them in place. So one will have to rip a 6x6 hole in the plywood every where it's bolted down, which on my big safe is 4 bolts. I can't say they want get it but I will say they'll have to work for it if they do.

Like others have suggested another hole or two in bottom would be a good idea, I do have a cheap first aleart safe that had one hole in the bottom and one in the top, sounds similar to what you have.

 

[absolutcollection]

underneath floor is my living room ceiling.

i dont have access under the wood floor.