I have Been looking at one of these for awhile i like the looks and that there is 22 interchangable barrels. Does anyone have experience with these id like to hear some reviews. Im going shopping on sunday and hoping to find one.
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Bond Arms .410/45
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The Bond is probably the highest quality derringer type pistol made. It's all stainless steel and very well made.
With that said, it's big and very heavy, and due to the traditional shape it's very awkward to cock. The shape makes it rather easy to fumble cocking it or even to drop the gun, especially if you're in a hurry.
If you load it with .410 shot shells, load it with buckshot. A nephew fired his dad's Snake Charmer model at a close target on a plywood backer and the #6 bird shot bounced off and hit him in the face. Saved by safety glasses.
The derringer design is very obsolete because these days you can have a .357 Magnum revolver holding 5 shots or a 9mm or .40 automatic with 6 shots in a package smaller, lighter, faster to reload, and far faster and easier to use.
It has a place, but it's not good as a primary defense gun.
With that said, it's big and very heavy, and due to the traditional shape it's very awkward to cock. The shape makes it rather easy to fumble cocking it or even to drop the gun, especially if you're in a hurry.
If you load it with .410 shot shells, load it with buckshot. A nephew fired his dad's Snake Charmer model at a close target on a plywood backer and the #6 bird shot bounced off and hit him in the face. Saved by safety glasses.
The derringer design is very obsolete because these days you can have a .357 Magnum revolver holding 5 shots or a 9mm or .40 automatic with 6 shots in a package smaller, lighter, faster to reload, and far faster and easier to use.
It has a place, but it's not good as a primary defense gun.
I have the Bond Ranger in 45/410
It is a good quality built derringer. It is huge, heavy and with stout loads, it can hurt to shoot. It does not fit the hand naturally. Its accuracy is pretty much limited to how far you could throw a bowling ball.
There is IMHO a significant design flaw to derringers in general that the Bond Derringer shares. The pin that the trigger pivots on is directly behind the trigger. If you were to pull perfectly straight back in the trigger, it would not fire. If you were back with say 10% of your trigger stroke in a downward motion, the trigger would feel EXTREMELY heavy. The best way to pull the trigger is downward with a little bit if back. It is NOT a natural motion. The best way I have found to shoot it is with a two handed cup and saucer hold, with the cup hand holding the derringer, and the saucer hand pulling down on the trigger.
In no way would I recommend any derringer as a self defensive weapon, over a revolver or semi-automatic pistol.
It is a good quality built derringer. It is huge, heavy and with stout loads, it can hurt to shoot. It does not fit the hand naturally. Its accuracy is pretty much limited to how far you could throw a bowling ball.
There is IMHO a significant design flaw to derringers in general that the Bond Derringer shares. The pin that the trigger pivots on is directly behind the trigger. If you were to pull perfectly straight back in the trigger, it would not fire. If you were back with say 10% of your trigger stroke in a downward motion, the trigger would feel EXTREMELY heavy. The best way to pull the trigger is downward with a little bit if back. It is NOT a natural motion. The best way I have found to shoot it is with a two handed cup and saucer hold, with the cup hand holding the derringer, and the saucer hand pulling down on the trigger.
In no way would I recommend any derringer as a self defensive weapon, over a revolver or semi-automatic pistol.
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I've got a couple of guns in 45LC. I started shooting black powder reloads in my 2nd Generation Colt SAA about 25 years ago. Just like the smoke and flame and its a really accurate round. Clean up is not that bad either - just not something you don't want to put off doing. It is corrosive.
My American Derringer M1 .45LC/.410 handles the shotgun rounds very easy and the black powder really tames the recoil in the .45LC.
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