Bond Arms Derringer 45LC/.410 Trigger Pull

[loose noose]

I'm sure there has to be some way to lighten the trigger pull on this derringer. BTW it is the "Defender" Model with a very short serial number 062XX, and it does have the extended grip. I bought the firearm, yesterday, used at my LGS, and took it out very early this morning and shot a few .410 2.5" shells, and also the 45LC.

The trigger pull was such that it took an awful lot of pressure in order to discharge the round, according to the owners manual the trigger pull is generally anywhere from 7-8#s due to the configuration of the firearm, which wouldn't be bad, but realistically the trigger pull is in my estimation at least twice that.

Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated so I thank ya in advance.

 

[loose noose]

Someone must have an idea of how to get a decent trigger pull, I got a hold of Bond Arms, and a very nice lady offered to have the firearm sent to them, provided I paid shipping to and from,(about $15.00 each way) to the tune of $150.00 to get there up graded trigger package. I would think the $180.00 is a bit much. I did take the grips off of it and noted the hammer spring is a coiled style, and thought about removing a coil or two, however the hammer is a rebounding hammer, and it probably needs heavy spring in order to make it reliable. Again any help will be appreciated.

 

[BBBBill]

Well I have never been into on of them, but if they are anything like most single action pistols, the hammer/sear relationship is key. I am betting that careful analysis of that might reveal some areas for improvement. It is a single shot (or two shot) single action so there is no concern about a runaway gun like you might have with a semiauto. I've done many trigger jobs on Marlin lever guns with no training of any kind. While they are lever action, single action rifles I have found that the hammer/sear relationship is very similar to the 1911 pistol in general layout. I have done literally hundreds of 1911 trigger jobs and it was easy to adapt my techniques to the Marlin rifles with allowances for the differences. I see no reason why someone with a modicum of basic understanding of how guns work would not be able to do the same with your situation.
As for the springs, check with Wolff. They do not list springs for that pistol, but they may be able to come up with a hammer spring of the same free length that is of a lower rating. Failing that, go to Ace or some other hardware store that carries springs and look for one that you can adapt. Between addressing the hammer/sear relationship and the spring, you should be able to come up with a fix.

 

[loose noose]

I do thank ya there BBB, I've done quite a few action jobs also on single action revolvers, and semi auto pistols, as well as bolt action, and lever action rifles, but never have I done a two shot derringer, or for that matter even gotten into one. I also thought about Wolff Springs, but couldn't find any for that particular firearm. After dry firing it the sear engagement seems fairly smooth, however the release is what is really difficult if ya know what I mean, so it would seem to me it is the springs, as you suggested. Tomorrow I'll get a hold of Wolff Springs and see if I can get a straight answer from them, perhaps they might have a spring that is comparable, I'd hate to screw up the springs that are in there by removing a coil or two. Thanks again.

 

[Stugotz]

This is/was on Bond's site and almost too simple not to try.

It was recommended that instead of pulling the trigger straight back, you instead exert your pressure more towards a "5 o'clock" pull. Basically just a more downward (and backward) pull.