Bond Derringer

[popeye]

A friend of mine wants one of these in .410/.45, for what I do not know. I don't question it because I at some times experience overwhelming desires to own unusual guns. I know the limitations of this thing as opposed to other self defense options, so does he. Since he has no computer he has asked me to post here about quality, not sensability, issues with this gun. Anyone own the non-trigger guard version as depicted in attachment.

 

[MrAcheson]

Bond Arms derringers are built like tanks and generally shoot close to POA with at least one, and often both, barrels. The design is fairly safe with rebounding hammers unlike some cheaper derringers. The trigger guards are removable for cowboy shoots, etc. They are very strong and quite reliable.

Major criticisms are the following. As with most derringers the trigger pull can be stout especially if you pull back instead of down like you are supposed to. In general Bond guns suffer less than competitors, but complaints still arise. The bond is also rather large for a derringer because it is built tough. This makes it even more impractical than most derringers because it has only two shots for this larger footprint.

 

[raz-0]

"larger" is a good way to put it. A local shop ahd a couple. They were about the size and wieght of a snub nose .357 revolver. Nicely made and solid, but self-defeating ont he practilce front.

As a neat gun type of thing they certainly feel nicely crafted.

 

[STORMIN29]

Bond

One good thing about Bond is the interchangeable barrels. Try one in the 450 Bond cartridge. One hot .45 caliber and a great defense round.

 

[seeker_two]

While there are better pocket-gun choices, I've always wondered just how effective a .410 buckshot load from a derringer would be in a close-in SD situation. Probably a bit better than a single slug from a .45Colt or .45ACP.

Might make an interesting BUG...

 

[popeye]

Well, thanks to all for info. I'll pass it on. I wouldn't go with a derringer. But as mentioned a .410 would discourage most evil-do-ers.

 

[tiberius]

I don't think the .410 is nearly as powerful as other rounds (9mm, .45 ACP or even .45 Colt) from a Derringer. .410's are so long (2/2" long in a 3" barrel) that there is little time for the pellets to build up speed. I have data for .410 slugs that put them in the .380 ACP class from a pistol (~88gr. @ ~1000 fps). I don't imagine the lighter buck shot is much better (worse?), but I don't any numbers for it.

I would think that the stubby auto cartridges (9mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, .45 ACP) would be the best choice for defensive uses. They are better suited to the stubby barrels as demonstrated by the many 3" auto loaders designed for them.

 

[tiberius]

I forgot to add, that despite what I said above, I think the .45/.410 would be the most fun to play with and I'll probably end up with one someday.

 

[Zeus]

I had one in 44 magnum. With a 240 XTP loaded over 24.5 grains of 296, it would definetely get your attention. Downright painful if you didn't hold it right. It was a neat novelty item but not very practical. GS