Unisaw
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It just goes to prove that the weapon is the person, not the object used in an attack (either offensive or defensive).
"Boots More Harmful Than Weapons In Street Violence, Study Shows"
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wingnutx
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Great Britain, home of the "boot party".
Fosbery
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I agree, we definitely need to reduce the availability of blunt objects in pubs. This will easily be achieved by attaching blades to every item in said pub - thus making them more effective as self-defence tools, should I be attacked by a drunken thug with a boot.
wingnutx
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Study on violence with giant ceramic phalluses is pending.
Cromlech
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
Spot the Kubrick fan.
I clicked on this thread, thinking that this would be a study in the U.S.
How wrong I was . . .
I wear my safety boots for work, and at home. I like boots, they are comfortable. If they start introducing restrictions on safety gear like my boots, I'm going to revoke my British Nationality, and declare my house to be a part of 'The Autonomous State of Twoddle-Town', until they send in the troops to kill me.
Grumble over.
Spot the Kubrick fan.
I clicked on this thread, thinking that this would be a study in the U.S.
How wrong I was . . .
I wear my safety boots for work, and at home. I like boots, they are comfortable. If they start introducing restrictions on safety gear like my boots, I'm going to revoke my British Nationality, and declare my house to be a part of 'The Autonomous State of Twoddle-Town', until they send in the troops to kill me.
Grumble over.
SoCalShooter
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I see a boot ban coming on.
wingnutx
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Cromlech - I'm glad somebody got that
Nice one, Wingnutx,
Did you read the book too?
The book had that incident different, but I loved the book as well, especially after I cleaned and loaded my guns. Reading the book with my 1911 or LeMat on the desk besides me makes me feel snug and safe.
I wonder when they will start banning cars too. And after that, they might ban the Metro too because it is just so easy for people to push another person in front of the incoming train.
Did you read the book too?
The book had that incident different, but I loved the book as well, especially after I cleaned and loaded my guns. Reading the book with my 1911 or LeMat on the desk besides me makes me feel snug and safe.
I wonder when they will start banning cars too. And after that, they might ban the Metro too because it is just so easy for people to push another person in front of the incoming train.
Cromlech
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To be honest, I wouldn't put anything past the current crop of 'politicians'. They are all in it for themselves.
ArfinGreebly
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Unbe-stinkin-lievable!
I want in on the contract to re-pave the whole of England in foam rubber and quilting.
If you're banning blunt objects, you'd better ban hard-surfaced roads and walkways.
Oh, and I OBJECT to the lack of references to "the children!" in the above article.
I want in on the contract to re-pave the whole of England in foam rubber and quilting.
If you're banning blunt objects, you'd better ban hard-surfaced roads and walkways.
Oh, and I OBJECT to the lack of references to "the children!" in the above article.
I like my justin boots.
Cowboy boots are pointed, so you can kick a cocroach in a corner.
I suppose results may vary depending upon who we think is a roach, and our method of cornering him.
We all know that it is the person in the boots, who should be held responsible.
I really wonder if boots would be a controlled comodity in Europe.
Cowboy boots are pointed, so you can kick a cocroach in a corner.
I suppose results may vary depending upon who we think is a roach, and our method of cornering him.
We all know that it is the person in the boots, who should be held responsible.
I really wonder if boots would be a controlled comodity in Europe.
Now it seems to me that Britain is far more tolerant of general street thuggery than the US, both in terms of general social attitudes, and in terms of law enforcement.
Those in the UK may not realize this, but in the US, one can get a conviction and jail time for shoving or even touching someone else, or merely threatening violence. The police generally do NOT just say, "Boys will be boys," and intoxication is generally not an acceptable defense.
Our bar scene here involves very little violence, and we as a society don't tolerate it. Ditto for our professional sports events.
We really aren't a crazed cowboy culture of bar brawls as some Europeans seem to believe, not in the least. We may not be as polite as the Canadians, but here we think of steel-toe boots as something your boss or your union rules require at work, not as weapons. Most people take them off before going out for a beer.
Those in the UK may not realize this, but in the US, one can get a conviction and jail time for shoving or even touching someone else, or merely threatening violence. The police generally do NOT just say, "Boys will be boys," and intoxication is generally not an acceptable defense.
Our bar scene here involves very little violence, and we as a society don't tolerate it. Ditto for our professional sports events.
We really aren't a crazed cowboy culture of bar brawls as some Europeans seem to believe, not in the least. We may not be as polite as the Canadians, but here we think of steel-toe boots as something your boss or your union rules require at work, not as weapons. Most people take them off before going out for a beer.
Cromlech
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ArmedBear, we definitely have a higher percentage of thugs here, I reckon.
A night out without something kicking off, isn't a proper night out, or at least it seems.
It gets worse at Christmas and New Year.
A night out without something kicking off, isn't a proper night out, or at least it seems.
It gets worse at Christmas and New Year.
Over here, soccer hooliganism is pretty rare,
over there, it is common, and sometimes racist too as Neo Nazis and skinheads join in the chaos.
A few nights ago, there was a brawl between NY Knicks and Nuggets. That was documented pretty much. Over there, hooligan attacks during sports events are common, and sometimes, they are so large that many, many are injured. I saw one video I belive was Youtube, and it showed an entire "army" of hooligans dressed in red versus another "army of thugs dressed in white, or yellow.
over there, it is common, and sometimes racist too as Neo Nazis and skinheads join in the chaos.
A few nights ago, there was a brawl between NY Knicks and Nuggets. That was documented pretty much. Over there, hooligan attacks during sports events are common, and sometimes, they are so large that many, many are injured. I saw one video I belive was Youtube, and it showed an entire "army" of hooligans dressed in red versus another "army of thugs dressed in white, or yellow.
Cromlech
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Yeah, the same guys do it in places like Turkey, for international matches, and then wonder why they get stabbed with kebab knives.
benEzra
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Not just in the UK, either. Fists and feet are used to murder more than twice as many people in the U.S. every year as all types of rifles COMBINED.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_20.html
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_20.html
Autolycus
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That is just to funny. It seems that the majority of these politicians are really just a bunch of elected morons. I am so sorry but I was laughing my butt off when I read that.
Are they really going to try to ban boots and other blunt objects? Why dont they realize that bans dont work.
As someone said above it really should drive the point that the weapon is the person and not the object.
Are they really going to try to ban boots and other blunt objects? Why dont they realize that bans dont work.
As someone said above it really should drive the point that the weapon is the person and not the object.
Car Knocker
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Before I even clicked on this thread, I *KNEW* it would be about the UK.
Axman
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"That boot had enough foot in it to kick and stomp by itself!!!"
cuchulainn
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Well, except for Philadelphia Eagles games.
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