Kailuaflyer
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Looking into getting some cleaning equipment for the three listed rifles, and I wanted some input if the .30 cal bore snake will work for all of them.
Bore snake for, Garrand, x39, and x54r
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rcmodel
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Buy a one piece cleaning rod. (Not jointed)
Plus bore brushes, patches, jags, and a bore guide for the Garand.
Lots of things a real cleaning rod will do, that a bore snake won't.
Like cleaning the chambers, or knocking out a stuck case.
And they won't break off in the bore either.
rc
Plus bore brushes, patches, jags, and a bore guide for the Garand.
Lots of things a real cleaning rod will do, that a bore snake won't.
Like cleaning the chambers, or knocking out a stuck case.
And they won't break off in the bore either.
rc
ColtPythonElite
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I will occasionally drag a bore snake through a .22lr at the range, but it's no substitute for real cleaning.
Jackal
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Bore snakes do very little to actually clean the bore. You would be better off with a rod/patch and an aerosol foaming bore cleaner/lead away cloth.
That said, I am still guilty of using a bore snake when a rifle has been sitting a while and developed a dusty bore.
That said, I am still guilty of using a bore snake when a rifle has been sitting a while and developed a dusty bore.
chris in va
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To answer your question, yes...a 30 caliber BoreSnake will fit all three.
Agree. And despite some of the responses, bore snakes do have a place.
While not a substitute for a more thorough cleaning with a rod, brush, patch, et al., they are good for getting the surface gunk, powder and other post-shooting residue out of the barrel when it's simply not convenient or possible, or you don't have the time, to do more.
I've used bore snakes on my ARs during breaks in tac training classes. I also do a few quick turns in the chamber with a AR chamber brush. About 5-minutes or so total, add a few drops of lube, and it's GTG for another 600-rds.
Again, this is only a temporary cleaning procedure until I can get the rifle home and broken down for a more thorough job. I've also done the same thing with my M1s & M1As.
wally
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All my range regulars seen nothing but a Bore Snake, wipe down with an oily rag, and a few drops of Break-Free on the moving parts until a problem develops and I have to take it apart.
I'd much rather be shooting and reloading than cleaning guns that'll be dirty again in a few days.
I'd suggest a second Bore Snake dedicated to the 54r if you shoot corrosive surplus through it.
I'd much rather be shooting and reloading than cleaning guns that'll be dirty again in a few days.
I'd suggest a second Bore Snake dedicated to the 54r if you shoot corrosive surplus through it.
Jim Watson
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Agree with Wally. I would not run a snake through rifle shot with Iron Curtain surplus corrosive and then my nice M1.
TheVision
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What's the real concern? It's quite probable that your M1, or the OP's, has had corrosive ammunition through it during its lifetime.
fireman 9731
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It's easy to wash a bore snake in a little soapy water after use and remove any corrosive residue. A bore snake dipped in Hoppes #9 has kept all of my milsurps in good condition after shooting corrosive ammo.
I like them a lot. Quick and easy.
I like them a lot. Quick and easy.
WardenWolf
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I put a bit of solvent on the head of the snake, just ahead of the bristles. This seems to allow it to do a good job of cleaning. I'll sometimes put a bit on the tail, too, but leave the rearmost dry so it can dry the bore as it goes through.
Swampman
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The following post is offered for informational purposes ONLY!
ANY USE, MISUSE OR ABUSE OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS SOLELY AT THE DISCRETION AND AT THE RISK OF THE INDIVIDUAL CHOOSING TO PERFORM NON-STANDARDIZED PROCEDURES NOT ENDORSED BY THE MANUFACTURER OF YOUR FIREARM. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, USE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES ON ANY SEMI AUTOMATIC, FULLY AUTOMATIC OR SELF LOADING FIREARM. DOING SO COULD PUT YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF OTHERS AT SERIOUS RISK. IT COULD ALSO CAUSE PERMANENT AND IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO YOUR FIREARM.
A Boresnake is one of the most useful tools you can have at the range on hot summer days here in Texas.
When your barrel gets really hot and the Sun is too strong to let it cool properly, dip the snake in ice water (try to keep the pull string dry) and pull it into the bore, inserting the string from the muzzle end and pulling toward the chamber.
Keep the muzzle pointed down once you get ahold of the brass weight at the action end. DO NOT pull it all the way through like the directions say, pull it until you see the "poofy", wet part of the snake get into the chamber, then stop.
Let it sit for a couple of minutes with the muzzle down, once your barrel is cool, reverse directions and pull the snake out of the muzzle.
Now run a dry snake through in the normal way a couple times and continue shooting.
For the cooling snake, I usually use one that's smaller than bore size since I'm not looking for any cleaning action from the brush portion. Even a .22 snake has enough body diameter to be snug in a 30 cal bore and it'll actually hold more water and cool better than one designed to fit the bore.
If you use this method, be careful so that you don't get any water in your action and MAKE SURE THE WEAPON, ESPECIALLY THE BORE, IS COMPLETELY DRY BEFORE SHOOTING!
I've never used this method on anything other than bolt actions and single shots. I STRONGLY CAUTION ANYONE ELSE FROM USING IT ON ANY FORM OF SELF LOADING ACTION!
Water, being an incompressible fluid, could do all kinds of things if it collected in a gas or recoil system.
None of those things would be good for you OR your rifle.
ANY USE, MISUSE OR ABUSE OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS SOLELY AT THE DISCRETION AND AT THE RISK OF THE INDIVIDUAL CHOOSING TO PERFORM NON-STANDARDIZED PROCEDURES NOT ENDORSED BY THE MANUFACTURER OF YOUR FIREARM. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, USE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES ON ANY SEMI AUTOMATIC, FULLY AUTOMATIC OR SELF LOADING FIREARM. DOING SO COULD PUT YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF OTHERS AT SERIOUS RISK. IT COULD ALSO CAUSE PERMANENT AND IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO YOUR FIREARM.
A Boresnake is one of the most useful tools you can have at the range on hot summer days here in Texas.
When your barrel gets really hot and the Sun is too strong to let it cool properly, dip the snake in ice water (try to keep the pull string dry) and pull it into the bore, inserting the string from the muzzle end and pulling toward the chamber.
Keep the muzzle pointed down once you get ahold of the brass weight at the action end. DO NOT pull it all the way through like the directions say, pull it until you see the "poofy", wet part of the snake get into the chamber, then stop.
Let it sit for a couple of minutes with the muzzle down, once your barrel is cool, reverse directions and pull the snake out of the muzzle.
Now run a dry snake through in the normal way a couple times and continue shooting.
For the cooling snake, I usually use one that's smaller than bore size since I'm not looking for any cleaning action from the brush portion. Even a .22 snake has enough body diameter to be snug in a 30 cal bore and it'll actually hold more water and cool better than one designed to fit the bore.
If you use this method, be careful so that you don't get any water in your action and MAKE SURE THE WEAPON, ESPECIALLY THE BORE, IS COMPLETELY DRY BEFORE SHOOTING!
I've never used this method on anything other than bolt actions and single shots. I STRONGLY CAUTION ANYONE ELSE FROM USING IT ON ANY FORM OF SELF LOADING ACTION!
Water, being an incompressible fluid, could do all kinds of things if it collected in a gas or recoil system.
None of those things would be good for you OR your rifle.
carbine85
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A bore snake does serve a purpose. I carry one in my range bag. If I'm testing different reloads I use it to clean between loads. It does a decent job and makes cleaning easier when you use the rod.
tcoz
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I use an Otis Ripcord at the range while the barrels are still warm. The advantage to it over a traditional boresnake is that it has a Nomex sheath with tiny cleaning bristles, but you can also attach a "Mongoose" combination bore brush/mop on the end that follows the cord through the bore from breech to muzzle. When I then do an actual cleaning of the barrel, there isn't much remaining after using this each shooting session. For actual cleaning, I use the Otis cleaning kit which has a flexible rod that is also pulled through breech to muzzle. These two systems work extremely well in pistols and rifles, including my M1 Garand.
stiab
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As others have stated, the Bore Snake is not the ultimate "do it all" cleaning tool, but they are none the less extremely valuable for firearm maintenance. I have 12 at last count for various handgun, rifle, and shotgun sizes, and many times that's all you need. Firearms do sometimes have to be cleaned with a rod, but certainly not after every use, depending on the situation.
Bullseye57
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Get an M-1 Buddy for cleaning your Garand.
It is perfect for catching dirty patches and fouling from the barrel and keeping debris and solvents from penetrating your wood stock. I bought mine way back when Jim Hill used to travel around in his little white Toyota van and sell Creedmore Armory gear out at the rifle ranges of Pendelton. This device also prevents your cleaning rod from activating the bolt release then slamming down on your brush and bending it. They work great for M-1As and M-14s too since the receivers are essentially the same. These are a lot pricier now than when I first bought mine, but they are worth it in my book.
R,
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It is perfect for catching dirty patches and fouling from the barrel and keeping debris and solvents from penetrating your wood stock. I bought mine way back when Jim Hill used to travel around in his little white Toyota van and sell Creedmore Armory gear out at the rifle ranges of Pendelton. This device also prevents your cleaning rod from activating the bolt release then slamming down on your brush and bending it. They work great for M-1As and M-14s too since the receivers are essentially the same. These are a lot pricier now than when I first bought mine, but they are worth it in my book.
R,
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tcoz
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Got one just last week. Like I mentioned, I use an Otis breech to muzzle cleaning system so I don't have patches to catch. I basically got it to make sure the bolt doesn't slam shut on me.
MilsurpShooter
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I have Bore Snakes in all calibers I shoot pretty much, after awhile the bronze brush built into them get's a little run down however, so keep that in mind. I treat them more as an additional step instead of a time saver however. I use the same one on my K98 as I do my Mosin Nagant and my Springfield 1903.
One or two dry pulls through the barrel, then I take a patch and tuck it into the looped end, dip the end in Hoppes and pull through a few times. 5 or 6 passes total then I go with the regular cleaning rod and patches method.
Don't throw them in the washing machine though, I tried to clean it that way once and it untied itself and got wrapped around the agitator lol.
One or two dry pulls through the barrel, then I take a patch and tuck it into the looped end, dip the end in Hoppes and pull through a few times. 5 or 6 passes total then I go with the regular cleaning rod and patches method.
Don't throw them in the washing machine though, I tried to clean it that way once and it untied itself and got wrapped around the agitator lol.
tcoz
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MilsurpShooter,
The combo bore brush, mop that I was referring to is called a Mongoose. It screws on and off the Ripcord so I just throw it out and replace it when it starts to wear. The front half that goes through the barrel first is a brass brush and the back half of it is a mop. Pretty ingenious and it really works.
I use a toothbrush to clean them.
The combo bore brush, mop that I was referring to is called a Mongoose. It screws on and off the Ripcord so I just throw it out and replace it when it starts to wear. The front half that goes through the barrel first is a brass brush and the back half of it is a mop. Pretty ingenious and it really works.
I use a toothbrush to clean them.
1911 guy
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O.P., the same boresnake will fit all three.
Boresnakes do have a place.
They are not a substitute for regular cleaning.
Others have said it, I just condensed it.
Boresnakes do have a place.
They are not a substitute for regular cleaning.
Others have said it, I just condensed it.
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