bought some 30 carbine ammo...

[guywithfastcar]

hey folks, I recently purchased some 30 carbine ammo from a guy who reloads as a side-job. I don't really know him that well, but he seems to be pretty knowledgeable when it comes to ammo. They are 110 and 90 grain hollowpoints and softpoints. They have nickle casings, and I bought them for $1/e. He said that he loaded them within "military specs" but at the higher end of the spectrum. He said they should have a muzzle velocity of around 2100 fps (the ammo I shoot now have a muzzle velocity of 1990.) My question is this, I have a 70 year old rifle- one that I have grown quite attached to- and don't want to damage it. Is there a risk of damaging the firearm if these rounds are excessively "hot"?
Thanks for the advice gents.

 

[rcmodel]

and I bought them for $1/e.

Are you saying you paid $1.00 a round for .30 Carbine reloads??

Yikes!

A 90 grain at 2,100 FPS might be safe.

A 110 grain at 2,100 FPS, not so much.

rc

 

[blarby]

RC wins again.... Thats pretty steep in the price department, Nickel plated or not.

My biggest question would be....if these purchased reloads damage your gun, is this gentleman licensed and insured appropriately to replace your firearm ?

If the answer to either of those is "no" I would be hesitant to use them.

I would love to be able to sell reloads as a side job....but the process and money involved in doing so legally makes it a full-time job for sure... and the pay would be commensurate with the effort and expense involved, thats for certain.

 

[moxie]

With shipping, you can get 50 Rem-UMC from Natchez, as an example, for about $40. If you bought a bunch, the shipping per unit goes down.
http://www.natchezss.com/Ammo.cfm?c...l&brand=RT&prodID=RT23712&prodTitle=Remington UMC 30 Carbine 110 gr FMJ 50/box

 

[moxie]

blarby,
I doubt that the pay would be commensurate with the time, effort and expense involved. It would likely be a lot less.

 

[guywithfastcar]

I should have specified that the rounds are not reloads, but new cases etc. I'm still pretty new to the firearm world, so I'm learning as I go. I'm not sure about insurance, but he does have an Ammo FFL license, does that add to credibility? Thanks again!

 

[JohnM]

In Factory boxes?, what brand? At a buck a round they better be gold plated.
I about fell over when I saw some Remington Carbine marked at $30 a box in town.

 

[blarby]

Ammo FFL license ? as in, the license to produce ammunition ?

That would do.

If he does have that, and ammo is his side-job, something is very, very wrong......


@ moxie : Depends. 9mm...prolly not. Custom rifle ammo around hunting time ? Prolly so.

If I could find a group of folks who would buy 30 carbine at $1 each... I would never do anything else ( sorry Guy, couldn't resist)

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I have seen Winchester .30 carbine factory rounds going for $49.95 per 50 rounds softnose hollowpoint, $39.95 for FMJ..

The last .30 carbine ammo I bought was Prvi Partizan at under $20 per 50.

The days of buying 30 rounds of Lake City at the matches for six bucks are gone forever.

.30 carbine goes through cycles of manufacture and availability based on previous year's demand. There has been an increase in .30 carbine vintage military shooting from formal matches to plinking, plus modern replica M1 carbines from Kahr. I suspect the ammo makers were caught unawares, and am hoping prices and availbility will stabilize.

Still, a dollar a round for handloads with new components? I would have to know and trust the loader very, very well to believe it was worth it.

 

[guywithfastcar]

He "maintains a Federal Firearms License registered in the state of Wisconsin. The license class is Ammunition Manufacturer". Hahaha, ok well we have established that I overpaid for ammo... that being said, with this license can I be confident in the ammo?

 

[rcmodel]

From post #2:

A 90 grain at 2,100 FPS might be safe.

A 110 grain at 2,100 FPS, not so much.

I stand by that statement.

You can't get 2,100 FPS safely with a 110 bullet in a gas-operated M1 Carbine without beating it up.

Pretty easily done with a 90 grain bullet though.

I would suspect anyones loads who tells you they can exceed standard performance levels in a gas-gun without stressing something beyond the design specs of the weapon.

rc

 

[guywithfastcar]

If I could find a group of folks who would buy 30 carbine at $1 each... I would never do anything else ( sorry Guy, couldn't resist)

Hahaha, no offense taken, I've learned it is easiest to laugh at myself when I do dumb things and learn from mistakes

 

[Mac Sidewinder]

I don't know about anyone else but I am reluctant to shoot anyone elses reloaded ammo (especially in an older weapon). How do you know how well he is at reloading? How careful is he in following proper procedures? To many variables involved for me. Maybe I am overly cautious but I like my body parts to stay attached.

Mac

 

[jcwit]

He "maintains a Federal Firearms License registered in the state of Wisconsin. The license class is Ammunition Manufacturer". Hahaha, ok well we have established that I overpaid for ammo... that being said, with this license can I be confident in the ammo?

Only if you trust him impeccably, and he has insurance to suit your needs in case the worst happens.

Personnally I would not. I would take what rc posts as gospel regarding this.

 

[blarby]

What he has basically means that if his ammo does you wrong, he has what he needs to have for you to go after him for it.

Thats worth exactly what it sounds like it is.

Lots of fools have lots of licenses, lots of sages have none.... shoot 'em and see !