Breaking story on escaped convicts

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Two convicts in NC escaped from work farm (?) and relieved two hunters of two longuns, handgun, cell phones and a Ford F150. Talk about situational awareness.
 
http://wral.com/news/local/story/2133497/

Search Under Way for 2 Northampton County Inmates


Posted: Today at 9:05 a.m.
Updated: 1 minute ago

Jackson — Authorities are looking for two inmates who left their work assignment at a Northampton County prison farm Wednesday.

The inmates, identified as Cloman Smith, 30, and Jesse McCrobie, 27, left the Odom Prison Farm in Jackson sometime after noon but before 2 p.m., Keith Acree, a spokesman for the North Carolina Department of Correction said.

Smith and McCrobie are also wanted for allegedly robbing two hunters at a Northampton hunting club at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday. Acree said one of the inmates apparently used a machete to carry out the robbery.

They took two rifles, a handgun, two cell phones, some cash and a red 2005 F-150 pickup truck with North Carolina license plate WXN-9873.

Anyone with any information about the inmates' whereabouts is asked to contact local law enforcement.

Smith and McCrobie are serving sentences at Tillery Correctional Facility, a minimum security prison in Halifax County, and were assigned to work at the poultry house at the farm.

Smith is serving a 12.5-year sentence for habitual felony armed robbery and is set to be released in 2010.

McCrobie is serving a 3-year sentence for a number of crimes, including drug possession, drug sales, felony breaking-and-entering, larceny and driving while impaired. He is set to be released in September 2009.

Reporter: Mike Charbonneau
Web Editor: Kelly Gardner
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Huh, I guess in this case bringing a knife to a gun fight did work.
 
This is bad, very bad. I hope the Hunters are alright. I also hope this does not get played up as civilians having their guns taken away from them. Also it does not say if the guns were accessible to the hunters, if they were locked in cases they are no good for SD.
 
A hunting club. I bet the guns were in the vehicle. "Who's got the keys for the red ford with the gun-rack?"
 
Hand the guys your unloaded rifles, then while their hands are full draw your pistol and hand it over bullets first.

Of course, since we don't know what the whole story is yet, who knows what happened or how.
 
I am never without a loaded gun in my hands or on my hip at the range for situations like this.
 
I am never without a loaded gun in my hands or on my hip at the range for situations like this.
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Likewise. It could happen. The odds may be low, but the stakes are high. I hope the hunters are okay - there's no mention of whether anyone was injured (so I assume that nobody was).
 
Huh, I guess in this case bringing a knife to a gun fight did work.
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Yeah, but it was a really BIG knife and no doubt they got the jump on the hunters. +1 to situational awareness.
 
Or perhaps these hunters were simply following the law, had thier firearms unloaded and stowed while not immediately hunting. By following the law they were not available for self defense, yet still perfectly available to be taken and used by a criminal.

If they just got back from a hunt, were packing thier arms away per the law, as well as other gear, and were confronted by 2 desperate armed men then being perfectly aware of the men coming out of the trees at them might not have changed a thing.

I do not know the exact law of NC, but I assume it is like many other places, and having a loaded firearm in a vehicle without a special permit to do so is illegal. Many places even with such a permit do not allow loaded long arms, merely a sidearm. Without such a permit even the sidearm must be stowed at least unloaded, if not locked up.
Such firearms are ripe for the taking, but useless for defense.
 
I do not know the exact law of NC, but I assume it is like many other places, and having a loaded firearm in a vehicle without a special permit to do so it illegal. Many places even with such a permit do not allow loaded long arms, merely a sidearm. Without such a permit even the sidearm must be stowed at least unloaded, if not locked up.
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Open carry is legal here. Ergo, one should be able to have a loaded gun (pistol/shotgun/rifle) plainly visible in the passenger compartment of a car. I cannot speak for hunting regulations requiring empty firearms when leaving the game grounds, as I do not hunt.
 
I cannot speak for hunting regulations requiring empty firearms when leaving the game grounds, as I do not hunt.
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And that's the problem. I know a lot of states who otherwise allow firearms to be loaded while in the vehicle do not allow it for hunting. A game warden catching you with a loaded weapon in your vehicle while hunting is a good way to get your hunting licensed removed for a couple of years.
 
These guys arent very smart. They both only had a year or two left in their sentences. Now they're gonna be in for 20+.
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That's why they are in jail to begin with. They're not very smart.
 
Or perhaps these hunters were simply following the law, had thier firearms unloaded and stowed while not immediately hunting. By following the law they were not available for self defense, yet still perfectly available to be taken and used by a criminal.
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+1 Zoogster.
To add insult to injury, there's a couple of attitudes floating around in my neck of the woods as well.
#1) No pistol or ccw while hunting (because you just -might- be tempted to use the pistol not the blackpowder/rifle/shotgun/etc).
#2) You have a rifle, why would you need a pistol?

Well I guess we know why now 'eh?
 
Ze,

In VA it's COMPLETELY legal to carry a handgun while hunting as long as you have a CHP. "Concealed handguns may be in the possession of hunters during the archery and muzzleloading seasons when they also possess a valid concealed handgun permit. Such handguns may not be used to shoot wild animals during these seasons."
They are also legal during rifle and shotgun season.
 
i kinda know how those guys feel

i was deer hunting back in october and some rednecks came into the area on gamelands i was hunting and started hassling me to leave with them to a better spot

on of them tried to get me to let him see my rifle

i let him see it as long as he let me see his (a really nice 700 in .30-06) and when the guy gave the gun to his friend (who was unarmed) his friend tried to chamber a new round but didnt know i only had one round in my 336 and had ejected that when i handed him the gun and the first guy tried to get his rifle back, i ejected all his rounds and gave him the gun back

so i unholstered my revolver and cocked the hammer back and told him id like my gun back so i can leave

then they started following me so i called the game warden and it turned out he was like 2-3 mins away with a sherrif deputy doing a random check

last i heard they were arrested for infringing on my right to hunt on public land and attempted robbery

i think that showing them iw as aware of what they were doing and taking out a loaded gun showed them i was the wrong teenager to try that with
 
Wow, Northampton made the big news.

I work up in Northampton Co and am very surprised that the guys got away.
The good ole boys there are generally smart and wouldn't let a crime go down like that. Like others said, they must not have been able to get to loaded guns quickly.

I always carry a pistol while hunting and it stays on my hip until I'm going down the road.
I've had people ask me why I carry pistols if I hunt with rifles...and I've always replied that you don't know who you'll run into while hunting.
Apparently I'm right.

If a guy came up to me with a machete and demanded my rifle then I'd probably give it to him.
I usually don't walk around with it chambered anyway, so I figure I'd have plenty of time to unload my 480 into him.
 
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