Breakin'the Law, ever justified ?.
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41magsnub
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er... maybe? Dunno... what exactly are you referring to as far as an extreme situation is concerned?
41magsnub
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Opinion on what? Everything is subjective.
Feud
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That really depends on what qualifies as an "illegal" firearm in said country, as well as what this rather ambiguous "extreme" situation is.
Sans Authoritas
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It was against the law and "unacceptable" to be a Christian before the year 313. It was "unacceptable" to the government of one country to hide Jews. It was "unacceptable" to wear glasses and/or be educated in another. It was "unacceptable" to funnel enslaved people into Canada from the U.S. It is still "unacceptable" to have more than one child in one country. The penalty is having your wife tied to a table, having her child killed in the womb and then having her forcibly sterilized.
You'd better define your term "acceptable," before you start confusing it with "what people with earthly power say."
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You'd better define your term "acceptable," before you start confusing it with "what people with earthly power say."
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Ragnar Danneskjold
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I believe asking about deliberate law breaking is a no-no on this forum.
TallPine
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Saorsa no bàs! 
JerryM
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No, I cannot think of a good reason.
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General Geoff
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If one feels that breaking the law is necessary for whatever reason, it is up to the individual to determine whether it's worth the potential punishment if said person happens to get caught by the local authorities.
nobius
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If it gets to the point where we are manufacturing our own firearms, not for fun, but for survival, I doubt very seriously there will be anyone one around to enforce said laws.
SOOOOOO......
In the complete breakdown of federal, state, and local governments, where we as citizens are compelled to take up arms to repel invaders, tyrants, zombies, rabid cats, et al. ; yes, I would.
SOOOOOO......
In the complete breakdown of federal, state, and local governments, where we as citizens are compelled to take up arms to repel invaders, tyrants, zombies, rabid cats, et al. ; yes, I would.
plexreticle
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What is morally right and what is the law is often two different things.
Vibe
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Thomas Jefferson seemed to think so. I'm pretty sure he even said as much.
LawBot5000
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In theory yes, but your mileage will vary depending on jurisdiction. Outcomes will depend on the exact facts when the illegality is uncovered, etc.
I remember that self defense was a successful defense to a felon in possession charge for possessing a non-NFA shotgun. I think this was in CA/9th Circus. But I think that same defense has failed multiple times when facing NFA charges under similar circumstances. I could even see self defense or necessity being a valid defense for temporary possession of a prohibited item but would be shocked if either of those defenses would be available to defend against a charge of manufacturing that same item.
Maybe during an insurrection or emergency I could see assembling a forbidden weapon if there was nothing legal available that would satisfy your self defense needs. But I would avoid doing that sort of thing if there is any way to do so.
Generally speaking, NFA possession and especially manufacture are strict liability crimes once you establish that the person knew the characteristics that make the weapon subject to NFA regulation.
I remember that self defense was a successful defense to a felon in possession charge for possessing a non-NFA shotgun. I think this was in CA/9th Circus. But I think that same defense has failed multiple times when facing NFA charges under similar circumstances. I could even see self defense or necessity being a valid defense for temporary possession of a prohibited item but would be shocked if either of those defenses would be available to defend against a charge of manufacturing that same item.
Maybe during an insurrection or emergency I could see assembling a forbidden weapon if there was nothing legal available that would satisfy your self defense needs. But I would avoid doing that sort of thing if there is any way to do so.
Generally speaking, NFA possession and especially manufacture are strict liability crimes once you establish that the person knew the characteristics that make the weapon subject to NFA regulation.
Frog48
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Is it EVER justified? Yes, in my opinion, some circumstances would morally require it.
Saying that breaking the law is NEVER justified is just naive.
Saying that breaking the law is NEVER justified is just naive.
browningguy
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Absolutely there are times laws have to be ignored/broken, if the colonists had not broken the law we would still be speaking the Queens English.
How can people even think for a minute that they have to obey all laws, that's sheeple thinking. Certainly the government knows best and is just protecting me, right, huh?????
How can people even think for a minute that they have to obey all laws, that's sheeple thinking. Certainly the government knows best and is just protecting me, right, huh?????
ReadyontheRight
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It seems to have workd O.K. in the USA in 1776.
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